Godzila Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 After landing I blow tires when braking when speed falls below 90 km/h. I use W key, no axis braking. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong?
AegisFX Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 I think what is happening can be attributed to the button applying full wheel brake. Are you flaring on landing and holding your nose up? another solution is to hold w in bursts. Owned: Ryzen 3900x, MSI AMD 470x mobo, 32gb 3200MHz ram, Gtx 1660 Ti, 970 Evo Plus 500GB, MsFFB2, TIR5, TMWH+18c Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Buttkicker/SSA, WinWing F-18C . Next is VR for simpit Art Of The Kill:
greco.bernardi Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I don´t know if it blow or a bug, because my tires don´t show any damage its only go to under ground. Edited November 8, 2014 by greco.bernardi
Kenan Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 From my own experience, 2 things can cause tires to blowup on landing: 1. Breaking hard at speeds above 200km/h 2. Not keeping a straight line ie. steering the aircraft left/right while braking Basically, you need to keep it straight and brake in small bursts untill the speed goes under 200 km/h where you should be able to use the wheel brake to its full extent ie. step on it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Godzila Posted November 8, 2014 Author Posted November 8, 2014 I tested it a bit more. It seems that weight is the problem. With over 90% max weight I can land ok, but I can't touch wheel brakes or tires will burst. That is without steering or crosswind. Tires burst when speed falls under 100 km/h.
Kenan Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 90% max weight? IRL they call it "emergency landing". You should land with lower fuel levels..like 50% (to be on the safe side). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Godzila Posted November 9, 2014 Author Posted November 9, 2014 90% max weight? IRL they call it "emergency landing". You should land with lower fuel levels..like 50% (to be on the safe side). It was a test. Tires burst also with 50% fuel and full load of missiles. I think what is happening can be attributed to the button applying full wheel brake. Are you flaring on landing and holding your nose up? another solution is to hold w in bursts. I thought that pressing W is somehow regulated. I see that plane breaks really hard. I agree with holding W in bursts until we get brake axis.
BitMaster Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Well, I guess you need to touch down softer. It did happen to me too on my first solo with the Lady, I even managed to blow the tires when taxiing... but that taught me how precise ED has been and ever since I fell in love with her again. She finally become a true sophisticated AC you can't just swirl around after 5 min practice ;) Give yourself some time and 10-50 approaches, touch her down very gentle, brake easy till 180km/h, deploy chute, step on the brakes and enjoy a negative G Pilot effect,...until fixed ;) I personally think she flies great, just that in RL I would change the FBW so it wouldn't need that much trim work, this is 30 year old circuits. Any 100 bucks Mems System can outperform the Su-27 FBW system in terms of stabilising I am afraid to say, but hey, we want the original Su, as built back then, and thats what we got, lots of work for the pilot, lots of everything you gotta get familiar with before you can actually enjoy her on-the-fly. What a great A2G AC too.... Give it some SEAD missiles and I change my favourite plane LoL Bit Edited November 10, 2014 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
NeilWillis Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I am sure the weight on landing is the reason. You can bet the real thing is never landed as fat as that. Why not try some landings at a more realistic landing weight, and then see what happens?
Kenan Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 It was a test. Tires burst also with 50% fuel and full load of missiles. Of course they'll burst if you hit the brakes too early and too often. It's still a 20 something tonne jet, with or without full fuel load. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
mvsgas Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Try landing with 3560kg of fuel or less without any missiles or gun ammo. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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