capttrob Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 I have looked all over and most of the flyable mods either come with a Russian cockpit and/or made for 1.02 only. Anyone know where i can find an F/A-18, F-16, F-14 flyable mod with F-15 cockpit for 1.12a? Or, if you can point me in the direction for instructions on how to make my own, that would be even better.... thanks in advance... Great fun on the 169th server this morning. Thanks guys.. S!
Ice Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Just a friendly reminder. Flying aircraft mods on someone elses is server is considered a cheat unless its specified to be ok.
capttrob Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 Thanks for the heads up Ice.... If that is the case, why do so many people fly the MiG29S when the 29A is the only one i see for available aircraft on the start menu? I asked this question before and nobody answered. Also, the manual covers the N-001 and N-019 along with the in depth details of the strengths and weaknesses of the APG-63, but there is nothing to be found for the Topaz used in the MiG-29S..... Im sure im probably missing something, but i find it rather odd that the most popular airplane online is one that has the least available information and/or easy access as the others.. (no "FLY" button). Not really sure if you can fly it in missions or camp's as i havent really ventured into anything with LOFC but online play. With that said, i thought any mod can only be flown with a current FM available. In other words, placing an AI skin over an existing flyable aircraft. In which case, its not really a "mod", rather different textures on an F-15 "bubble" FM (or Su-27/33/29... etc). Are users able to tweak airfiles in order to fly AI aircraft online tweaking the air file to match the performance of the specific aircraft? I thought the server host could limit what types of flight models are allowed in the server, and if there was any tweaking going on, it would be rejected. Dont know myself, just throwing out questions that pop up in my fried noggin.... BTW, great fun earlier tonight even if we didnt get to engage. It was nice to fly with structured teamwork..... And dont forget, i meant what i said with respect to the server... :cheers:
Maverick-90 Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Thanks for the heads up Ice.... If that is the case, why do so many people fly the MiG29S when the 29A is the only one i see for available aircraft on the start menu? omg... i see u haven't looked much into the game there's no -29A available as Quickstart it's trhe -29G flown by the German Luftwaffe :p Tthere are 9 stock flyables: :icon_syda Su-25T :icon_syda :icon_supe Su-25 Su-27 Su-27K/33 MiG-29A Mig-29G Mig-29S F-15C A-10A so flying the Fulcrum-C is normal., cuz it's a standard Flyable. Also you are only able to select the planes the server allows you to...
britgliderpilot Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Thanks for the heads up Ice.... If that is the case, why do so many people fly the MiG29S when the 29A is the only one i see for available aircraft on the start menu? I asked this question before and nobody answered. Also, the manual covers the N-001 and N-019 along with the in depth details of the strengths and weaknesses of the APG-63, but there is nothing to be found for the Topaz used in the MiG-29S..... Im sure im probably missing something, but i find it rather odd that the most popular airplane online is one that has the least available information and/or easy access as the others.. (no "FLY" button). Not really sure if you can fly it in missions or camp's as i havent really ventured into anything with LOFC but online play. With that said, i thought any mod can only be flown with a current FM available. In other words, placing an AI skin over an existing flyable aircraft. In which case, its not really a "mod", rather different textures on an F-15 "bubble" FM (or Su-27/33/29... etc). Are users able to tweak airfiles in order to fly AI aircraft online tweaking the air file to match the performance of the specific aircraft? I thought the server host could limit what types of flight models are allowed in the server, and if there was any tweaking going on, it would be rejected. Dont know myself, just throwing out questions that pop up in my fried noggin.... BTW, great fun earlier tonight even if we didnt get to engage. It was nice to fly with structured teamwork..... And dont forget, i meant what i said with respect to the server... :cheers: The radar in the MiG29S is the N019 Topaz - it's identical to the radar in the MiG29A, with the one exception being that it's been modified to interface with the R77. As such, it is also identical in modes of operation to the Su27 radar. There's two ways of tweaking a flyable in - the first is putting another skin (actually a 3D model) on another FM. Fine, you have the same functionality, but it looks a bit different. The second is to flick a switch in the MeInit file which allows you to fly what an AI aircraft, with the greatly simplified flight model only intended for the computer. No tweaking of anything is achievable - you just can't edit aircraft performance, it's buried in the .exe code. You can only fly an aircraft in MP that has been built into the mission with the skill level "Client". If the map-builder adds a MiG29S with skill client, you can fly one. If he doesn't, you can't. I'm fairly sure there's a MiG29S campaign - if you're not exploring the single missions, campaigns, and mission editor . . . . then shame on you! And not having looked is a rubbish excuse for the 29S being hard to get to :p http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
capttrob Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 omg... i see u haven't looked much into the game there's no -29A available as Quickstart it's trhe -29G flown by the German Luftwaffe :p Tthere are 9 stock flyables: :icon_syda Su-25T :icon_syda :icon_supe Su-25 Su-27 Su-27K/33 MiG-29A Mig-29G Mig-29S F-15C A-10A so flying the Fulcrum-C is normal., cuz it's a standard Flyable. Also you are only able to select the planes the server allows you to... Gimmie a break guys, i've had the game for about 2 weeks. I dont know about your game Maverick, but if you take a close look at the screenshot of my "quickstart" menu, that letter next to the MiG-29 looks awfully like an "A" to me. Now i've only been speaking and reading english for about 35 years... but im pretty sure i can distiguish between a "G" and an "A" by now. However, let me know if you see a "G". Im always appreciative for those that correct my knowledge of that alphabet. And to think all these years i thought that figure next to the Mig-29 was an "A"... ;). However, since i know very little about MiG's, and learning quite a bit about the developement of this game, i suppose it could be a typo....? And the MiG on the start screen is really a "G" but mislabelled? However, if it makes ya feel better, feel free to correct any spelling errors in my post. Im almost certain i misspelled "distinguish"... :) Here is the screenshot of my quickstart menu... (my apologies for the sarcastic post, it was just too hard to pass up ;) )
capttrob Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 I'm fairly sure there's a MiG29S campaign - if you're not exploring the single missions, campaigns, and mission editor . . . . then shame on you! And not having looked is a rubbish excuse for the 29S being hard to get to :p I'll start flying the campaigns when i get bored with flying online. I havent been around LOFC long, but from what the more experienced squad members are telling me, it seems the MiG-29S is for the noobs or those pilots wanting the easy kill without a challenge. I have no time in the -29S, but i have shot quite a few of them down with the Eagle (as well as being shot down many times by them ;) ). Im just passiing along what i have heard from several top players that have switched to other airframes because the -29S is "too easy". Perhaps those that said it, will chime in here if they read this thread.... :cheers:
GGTharos Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 No plane is 'too easy'. That's that ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
britgliderpilot Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Gimmie a break guys, i've had the game for about 2 weeks. I dont know about your game Maverick, but if you take a close look at the screenshot of my "quickstart" menu, that letter next to the MiG-29 looks awfully like an "A" to me. Now i've only been speaking and reading english for about 35 years... but im pretty sure i can distiguish between a "G" and an "A" by now. However, let me know if you see a "G". Im always appreciative for those that correct my knowledge of that alphabet. And to think all these years i thought that figure next to the Mig-29 was an "A"... ;). However, since i know very little about MiG's, and learning quite a bit about the developement of this game, i suppose it could be a typo....? And the MiG on the start screen is really a "G" but mislabelled? However, if it makes ya feel better, feel free to correct any spelling errors in my post. Im almost certain i misspelled "distinguish"... :) Here is the screenshot of my quickstart menu... (my apologies for the sarcastic post, it was just too hard to pass up ;) ) It is a G, but whether it's a mislabelling or not is debatable. The MiG29A quick start mission puts you in the cockpit of a German MiG. The German MiGs were delivered (to East Germany) from Russia as MiG29A spec. Post-reunification, they were included into the German air force, but they were modified slightly to be interoperable with NATO aircraft. Stuff like standardising comms and instruments (you'll notice it now reads in knots and feet) . . . . some choose to relabel it, since it isn't quite the same spec it left Russia as. If you're absolutely convinced the MiG29S is too easy, try flying the A-model or the Su27 for a little while. There's nothing wrong with the MiG . . . . but all that thrust and the R77s do make it a bit easier than the Su27. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
capttrob Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 If you're absolutely convinced the MiG29S is too easy, try flying the A-model or the Su27 for a little while. There's nothing wrong with the MiG . . . . but all that thrust and the R77s do make it a bit easier than the Su27. Thanks for the clarification on the MiG brit.. :) As for me being convinced of the 29S being "too easy"? I havent a clue what they are like to fly. I never flown the bird (edit: well thats not entirely true, i think i flown it once or twice for a total of about 7 mins). Im just passing along what others have told me who have more experience with this game than me. I wont name names, but i suppose it will be easy to figure out who feels that way if you see what they fly online presently.... As far as im concered, the Eagle is ten times easier to fly... for me.... mainly because i have no time in the -29S. I tried flying some of the Russian birds, but im not willing to put the effort into mastering them just yet aside from learning their strengths and weaknesses for now.... :cheers:
capttrob Posted April 1, 2006 Author Posted April 1, 2006 It is a G, but whether it's a mislabelling or not is debatable. . After thinking about this a bit, i dont see how it can be "debatable". Its mislabelled, plain and simple. If your wife (or significant other... to be "pc"), asked you to go pick up a Filet Mignon at the grocery store, yet you never seen a Filet Mignon. So you find a nice piece of meat labelled Filet Mignon for about 12 bucks. You dont know the difference or pricing, so you buy it. I mean your wife wants Filet, it says Filet.. you're a hero.. right? Once you get home, your wife hits you over the head with it and says to you, "What are you stupid or something? I asked for a Filet, this is a London Broil!!" Moral of the story. The majority of people buying this game will think that plane is a MiG-29A... period.
britgliderpilot Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 After thinking about this a bit, i dont see how it can be "debatable". Its mislabelled, plain and simple. If your wife (or significant other... to be "pc"), asked you to go pick up a Filet Mignon at the grocery store, yet you never seen a Filet Mignon. So you find a nice piece of meat labelled Filet Mignon for about 12 bucks. You dont know the difference or pricing, so you buy it. I mean your wife wants Filet, it says Filet.. you're a hero.. right? Once you get home, your wife hits you over the head with it and says to you, "What are you stupid or something? I asked for a Filet, this is a London Broil!!" Moral of the story. The majority of people buying this game will think that plane is a MiG-29A... period. Well there is a MiG29A in the game, as well as the MiG29G. They both fire the same weapons (A2G excepted, the Germans don't load bombs/rockets on their MiGs), they both fly exactly the same way . . . . the -G is really a little-known subvariant of the -A that only us aviation geeks notice :p Maverick-90 remains technically correct, and you learn a little more about the MiG variants :) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
Crusty Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Su 15 and a Gigantic hat please :rolleyes: oo err...missus:animals_bunny: ** Anti-Pastie**
169th_Crusty Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Su 15 and a Gigantic hat please :rolleyes: Crusty Club is growing:) ...you sure we haven`t met... on TS;)
Ice Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 MiG29S Is the most lethal Aircraft for Online Dogfighting when All Weapons are available. That's that :) No Offense but If someone doesnt fly all aircraft equally they cannot have an "Informed" opinion. I'm trying real hard to give the MiG29S a run for its money flying the Su27 but I still cant do any better than 2 or maybe 3 kills for every loss (Average). Give me MiG29 and its not unusual to get 10 kills or more with no loss. 169th Rastus currently has 30 kills in the Mig29 on the dedicated with No losses. He will also be the first to tell you that there is NO WAY he could get that kind of kill ratio in any other ac. Mustang today/tonight has taken out about 15 Su27's or F15's in a row without a loss. Now When someone joins the 169th Dedicated with real opposition and gets scores like that flying another aircraft and against the MiG29S, I'll change my tune.
Crusty Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Crusty Club is growing:) ...you sure we haven`t met... on TS;) Blimey, dont remember meeting you m8, but you obviously have great taste :icon_jook oo err...missus:animals_bunny: ** Anti-Pastie**
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Su 15 and a Gigantic hat please Gotta luv the Ruskie services, the more important you are, the bigger the hat they give you........... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Maverick-90 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Moral of the story. The majority of people buying this game will think that plane is a MiG-29A... period. yep and most of them will never find out because they hide the game somewhere thinking it was unrealistic cuz the F-15 isn't that Killer-Dog, it's labeled by the USA and because they want to use the F-15C's big A/G armament store :icon_axe:
Mustang Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 MiG29S Is the most lethal Aircraft for Online Dogfighting when All Weapons are available. That's that :) No Offense but If someone doesnt fly all aircraft equally they cannot have an "Informed" opinion. I'm trying real hard to give the MiG29S a run for its money flying the Su27 but I still cant do any better than 2 or maybe 3 kills for every loss (Average). Give me MiG29 and its not unusual to get 10 kills or more with no loss. 169th Rastus currently has 30 kills in the Mig29 on the dedicated with No losses. He will also be the first to tell you that there is NO WAY he could get that kind of kill ratio in any other ac. Mustang today/tonight has taken out about 15 Su27's or F15's in a row without a loss. Now When someone joins the 169th Dedicated with real opposition and gets scores like that flying another aircraft and against the MiG29S, I'll change my tune. yes, every time i fly the 29S i feel so much "safer" in the knowledge that i can fly south into those deep hills, flank the enemy nose cold and EOS/helmet only and wait for those nice little black dots in the distance to appear, fire off an ET and melt away again :) just gotta watch out for those avengers now
Guest EVIL-SCOTSMAN Posted April 4, 2006 Posted April 4, 2006 meh, id pwn ya in a 25t fully loaded and as agile as a train ;) ow, did i forget to mention, guns only for me, but id give you a chance, i would let you take 77s :p
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