panther494th Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 iv just updated game and now i find the 15 in my game rolls to the right tryed playing with trim no joy just fed up with it can some 1 please help on this many thx panther
104th_Maverick Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Does it happen when you aircraft is clean or only with payload and tanks? This does not happen to me or any of my pilots. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
airborne3406 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 new guy here. first post. im having the same problem. Updated today and the exact same thing happens to me. doesn't matter if its a clean configuration or loaded down. as soon as I pull back on the stick it wants to roll right. Even when rotating during take off it rolls right. tried it with 2 different joysticks and the keyboard to make sure it wasn't me. As for trimming it was almost impossible
redglass98 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) I am having the same issue except mine is rolling to the left from the beginning. This started when I accepted the new update and downloaded today. A quick look at the external view shows the ailerons and horizontal stabs not in a neutral position even prior to start-up. Has something to do with the new update. Edit: I tried rebooting (Cold Start) no joy. Tried disengaging all CAS. No joy and became almost uncontrollable . Edited December 13, 2014 by redglass98 Additional info Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1, 3.50 gig Intel Core i7-3770K , 64-bit Multi-core (4 total) Hyper-threaded (8 total), 8 mb mem, NVIDIA GTX 980, CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle, TrackIR5
8core Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I am having the same issue except mine is rolling to the left from the beginning. This started when I accepted the new update and downloaded today. A quick look at the external view shows the ailerons and horizontal stabs not in a neutral position even prior to start-up. Has something to do with the new update. I am having the same . This started when I accepted the new update and downloaded today. :(
panther494th Posted December 12, 2014 Author Posted December 12, 2014 iv think i fixed it by pressing the A key but if i repress the A key it starts again
Basher54321 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Re calibrate the joystick? Is it centered when you view the roll axis in the curves in the control options?
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Happens to me too in instant action. Maybe it's the wind problem occurring again? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Davis0079 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) try turning off the stabilizer system......if I remember correctly its RCtrl+1, RCtrl+2, RCtrl+3....pitch, roll, and yaw.....use the F2 view to see if the control surfaces correct themselves...not a fix, but this could narrow the problem down atleast... Edited December 12, 2014 by Davis0079 It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money.
Horizon Line Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 It's not the joystick. Same problem here. It happens when starting up cold. Not happening when starting from the air. Useless to test the issue on instant action intercept mission for F-15C while the issue does not occur. Turning off any stabilizer system or them all does not fix the issue.
GGTharos Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Rebooting won't fix anything. This is payload bug, looks like all missiles on the fuselage count as if they're on one side of the aircraft. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Horizon Line Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I am having the same issue except mine is rolling to the left from the beginning. This started when I accepted the new update and downloaded today. A quick look at the external view shows the ailerons and horizontal stabs not in a neutral position even prior to start-up. Has something to do with the new update. The jet had a Rudder offset when taxing and prior to start up before any control issue appeared for me (prior to last update) . Not sure about aileron or horizontal stabilizer. Just when I got free time to fly the bird. :( I'll make further testing.
Mowgli Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Same issue here - after the latest update the F-15 rolls to the right:joystick: happens in instant action(didn't test it in other missions/MP/campaign) how come the developers didn't notice such an issue? we need a fix fast!!!! Edited December 13, 2014 by Mowgli [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i5 4690K | ASUS Z-97PRO Gaming Mobo | Nvidia Gigabyte GTX970 3.5/0.5 GB Windforce3 | G.Skill Ripjaws-X 2x8GB DDR3 1600Mhz | Samsung Evo 120GB SSD | Win10 Pro | Antec 750w 80 Bronze Modular
GGTharos Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Bug reported. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Mowgli Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Bug reported. Thanks - now let's hope that the fix will come soon [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i5 4690K | ASUS Z-97PRO Gaming Mobo | Nvidia Gigabyte GTX970 3.5/0.5 GB Windforce3 | G.Skill Ripjaws-X 2x8GB DDR3 1600Mhz | Samsung Evo 120GB SSD | Win10 Pro | Antec 750w 80 Bronze Modular
Horizon Line Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Here's what I got: Clear weather (maybe 2m/s wind and 1 or 2m/s turbulence)>Payload: Symmetrical Full of aa Missiles and 3 fuel tanks> All controls axis centered> Take off without flaps> Positive climb> Jet rolls to the right> Climb to 15-20 angels, problem persists. Then I start shooting the missiles one by one> rolls issue persists without reducing intensity> jet empty of missiles, unwanted roll still there> jettinson those 3 fuel tanks> rolls persists. The issue does NOT happens on Instant Action's Intercept mission for F-15C. It MIGHT be something connected to cold start ups. This department I'm not familiar with. Disabling any stabilizing control; yaw, roll or pitch does not take effect on the issue. I hope this helps.
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Rebooting won't fix anything. This is payload bug, looks like all missiles on the fuselage count as if they're on one side of the aircraft. Looks more like the hard points are asymmetrical or mixed up anyway. If I only load on the left side it will roll left and stop once all stations are clear. But it seems that the launch sequence had an overhaul. Nice! :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
GGTharos Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 That is one part, the other part is fuel quantity and behavior when loading tanks on the aircraft :) shift-D shows zero quantity per external tank and the totalizer appears to not add the tank quantity either (shows 13500), but if you drop the tanks your fuel total is reduced. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Yeah. Noticed that dumping external tanks apparently throws the internal fuselage tank overboard. :D Anyway, did a little testing and the wing stations for missiles and the centerline tank does not apply any roll. But the fuselage missile stations and the wing tank stations are mixed up somehow. I don't have any probs in clean config, nor after unloading everything. Edited December 13, 2014 by Svend_Dellepude [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
predattak Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Same problem here, with or without payload the jet rolls to the right. Ailerons and rudder are in neutral position and it's not from the stick either. I tried the instant action and map editor or loading custom missions.. the result it's the same the jet loves to roll right. I guess it's a module problem or most probably some "update" to the f 15 because the Su 25t does not have this problem. I'm gonna try other planes but i'm sure that they are fine. The F-15c is grounded until the next update :( it's impossible to bleed incoming missiles with this roll
Kalastaja Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 I've been literally waiting for the whole week to get to play DCS. And then this happens, well shit.
pyromaniac4002 Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Hell of an update. Broke external fuel tanks' ability to carry fuel and somehow the right wingtip gained about 2,000 lbs. And the F-15 didn't even need to be touched.
sslechta Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 They also fixed the aerial refueling bug which could have possibly triggered the fuel tank bug. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor
pyromaniac4002 Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 I can disagree about that.. The f15 did need re-work.. Launch sequence for missiles were jacked, Issues on the ground where the plane thought it was yawing and applying full rudder, aoa issue, Horrible flight char above fl25, and a slew of other things.. I honestly hope this is not the "we don't want to mess with released modules and sick of people complaining its screwed up, so we will mess it up worse, that way people stop complaining about minor bugs in fear of having the whole thing screwed to the point of unflyable.." Not saying this is the case but truly look at the current situation those bugs are hard to miss. So with that you guys and can think I'm going back to my corner with my tin foil hat on.. Well they didn't work on ANY of that. Between this and the last patch, there were no noticeable changes to the F-15 other than what they screwed up, and with the last patch they did manage to update the APU sound without incident. If they had actually done something to improve the F-15 and circumstantially screwed these things up, that'd be one thing. But it seems apparent that they didn't touch the F-15 itself and whatever else they were working on in DCS screwed it up. Also, nobody said "don't update the F-15 ever because you'll make it unplayable with minor bugs." So yeah, you can go back to your corner with your tin foil hat because that's not an issue. The really stupid thing is that this was in Open Beta, I saw people reporting it so I assume they knew about it, and they still pushed it to release without fixing it first. You can forgive me for expressing my dismay. And FYI: the rudders are moving because CAS is responding to wind. It has no practical effect.
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