pepto Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 some of you might remember my post about the ch pro products or the x55 and i gotta say i wasn't too thrilled with the idea of waiting for lord knows how long for the ch pro throttle to come back into stock i got myself the x55 instead, and now i'm honestly starting to regret it a bit. the ghost presses on the throttle are absolutely crippling, i cannot even begin to tell you how many times i've had my landing gear ripped off in high speed flight because of it, canopies jettisoned, engines shut down, ect. i don't have teamspeak so that problem goes out the window, i tried plugging it into a USB 3.0 port that works fine with my stick but that doesn't work either. i noticed it is especially terrible with the FC3 aircraft, the F-15 is the least flyable of all, and i don't exaggerate when i say that, i have manipulated the throttle in the controls page and from going full back to the forward position i had about 3 ghost presses. i am running out of options as i spent all my money on a new setup and this issue is just pushing me further away from wanting to fly in any sims :joystick::helpsmilie:
Gladman Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 If its been more than a year since you reinstalled your OS, I'd start there. Dale i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
vicx Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Pepto. X55 has rumoured problems with stability which is exacerbated by win8 over zealous power saving. I will post this link to an Arma thread for x55 which explores some solutions. Arma is very sensitive to controlelr issues. In Arma you don't just get phantom presses you lose the entire controller and have to restart the game. This is why Arma has a solid thread on x55 issues and solutions. I have no problems now that I use a quality powered HUB AND I disable power saving for USB hub chain to my controller and then I leave the controller plugged in all the time. If you unplug the controller Win8 resets UBB power saving settings on the USB chain. Back to having problems again. Link x55 problem thread This is just my experience. Good Luck.
Gladman Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 Wow, I am ever glad I was too cheap to "upgrade" to win8 Dale i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
pepto Posted February 21, 2015 Author Posted February 21, 2015 Pepto. X55 has rumoured problems with stability which is exacerbated by win8 over zealous power saving. I will post this link to an Arma thread for x55 which explores some solutions. Arma is very sensitive to controlelr issues. In Arma you don't just get phantom presses you lose the entire controller and have to restart the game. This is why Arma has a solid thread on x55 issues and solutions. I have no problems now that I use a quality powered HUB AND I disable power saving for USB hub chain to my controller and then I leave the controller plugged in all the time. If you unplug the controller Win8 resets UBB power saving settings on the USB chain. Back to having problems again. Link x55 problem thread This is just my experience. Good Luck. this must be it as i am running windows 8.1, thank you for bringing this to light, i'll try and see what i can do!
lazduc Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 After reading the arma threads on this....seems like the solution is to install the Win 10 upgrade which is free...
Knowlynn Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 I suffer from an occasional ghost press but it's so rare that I haven't seen the need to buy a usb hub. A work-around is to add delayed key presses in the H.U.D. software. Now, I have to hold SW 2 for .3 sec before my gear comes down. Set it up by adding a 'New Advanced Command'. In the 'Press' row, add "Shift+G Shift+G". Quantize time to 0 and set a delay on the first shift to .3. It also works great if you map Eject to your hotas ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0, AMD FX-8350, Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB G.SKILL ARES DDR3-2133, Windows 8 Pro, Saitek x55, Saitek Combat Pedals, FTNOIR
pepto Posted February 21, 2015 Author Posted February 21, 2015 I suffer from an occasional ghost press but it's so rare that I haven't seen the need to buy a usb hub. A work-around is to add delayed key presses in the H.U.D. software. Now, I have to hold SW 2 for .3 sec before my gear comes down. Set it up by adding a 'New Advanced Command'. In the 'Press' row, add "Shift+G Shift+G". Quantize time to 0 and set a delay on the first shift to .3. It also works great if you map Eject to your hotas it seems like your solution is the most logical seeing as i have absolutely no interest in windows 10, but then again i'm VERY reluctant to use the saitek software, because, and excuse my ranting, honestly 3 profiles?? that's it?? that's just ridiculous like yeah cool i can program 3 modules how is that helpful in a sim like dcs where all the modules vary all across the board from different time periods and countries and uses, even the FC3 planes like the eagle and flanker require unique tuning in terms of radar and such it's absolutely absurd (PS if this is not how the software works then i apologize for making myself look like an ass in public :P)
King_Hrothgar Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I have Win 8.1 and no issues with my X-55 currently. When I first plugged it in to the back panel, it actually shut down my entire PC instantly. I can only assume it drew way too much power. Plugging it into independently powered front panel USB slots fixed the issue. Haven't had a problem since. This does seem to be a common problem although my particular version of it is rare. So yeah, plug it into a powered USB hub, switch off any sort of windows power saving nonsense and you should be good to go. I've heard of some issues with AMD machines with it, but I've read that it still seems to be a power issue. In any case, I'm very happy with the X-55, it's just an electricity monger is all. It needs it's own powered USB hub to work. This is the one I use: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YDJJFS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Edited February 21, 2015 by King_Hrothgar
Gladman Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 Pepto the 3 mode switch is an excellent feature. I use it to put all my necessary A-A switches on Mode 1, Nav on Mode 2, and when Hornet comes out, A-G will be Mode 3. The idea is not to have 3 different airplanes on at the same time. You can very simply create profiles for each aircraft, then in the system icons, right click and select A-10, or F-15, etc etc. Dale i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
pepto Posted February 21, 2015 Author Posted February 21, 2015 Pepto the 3 mode switch is an excellent feature. I use it to put all my necessary A-A switches on Mode 1, Nav on Mode 2, and when Hornet comes out, A-G will be Mode 3. The idea is not to have 3 different airplanes on at the same time. You can very simply create profiles for each aircraft, then in the system icons, right click and select A-10, or F-15, etc etc. Dale ah, my ranting was a bit pre-mature, i actually found that using the software, i can make keys press-and-release which solves ghost buttons while adding a very minimal amount of time to button holding :D also my original idea was to map all the necessary switches and buttons on the stick/throttle and map those to certain buttons, ie numpad 5 can be radar pulse-receiver cycle for the flanker and RWS/TWS for the eagle :smartass:
Mano Posted February 21, 2015 Posted February 21, 2015 The mode switch is to virtually multiply the hotas buttons within the same profile. At the same time you can create unlimited numbers of profiles each one with up to three modes. So you have plenty of opportunities to have a profile for each aircraft you have got. So... It doesn't appear so limited to me... Concerning your issue. I had similar problems with my x52 in the past. The solution was to map every button with the saitek software as an advanced command or macros. Now that problem is not showing any more. However i had another issue that made crashes when installing drivers : i had to downgrade the usb ports from 3.0 to 2.0 uninstalling the device via control panel. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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