Iberian Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I present to you the following idea, and I'd like to hear your opinions. All who have participated in Red Flag can agree the idea is very fun and enjoyable! And I thank the 104th for such events, it brings the community closer. However, I feel it focuses too much on 4th gen fighters too much and most other aircraft are neglected. Nothing wrong with that, but to give the other modules more attention I propose the following; My group would create a Red Flag styled multiplayer mission for a Player vs Player event. Aircrafts available would be; A-10A & C, Su-25 & T, Hawk, MiG21, MiG15, F86 and the C101 (if it has weapons by the time we do the event) Helicopters can be included if voted for. Also I'd like to hear some suggestions on what to call the mission! Edited June 10, 2015 by Iberian [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Backy 51 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Operation Wags The Hawg I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
104th_Maverick Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Its a great idea. I'd love to see more Squadrons pick up the baton and get some more events on the go! I'm also very keen to see a more realistic Red Flag Community Mission than the Red Flag events the 104th put on. Our Red Flag is intended to be a step up from flying in our Public Server rather than a highly co-ordinated serious event. The purpose is to bring the community together and give them a platform to compete on a regular basis, thats semi-relaxed and informal, we want people to have fun and not take it too seriously. However I know that's not everyone's cup of tea and I would like to see a more realistic version by another Squadron and hope there are those out there willing to cater to it. I'm sure the sign up would be very popular and would give those hardcore DCS Ground Attack guys something to really get their teeth into! We march forward together gents!!! S! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
Ultra Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I like the idea, but how would you keep everything else from being creamed by the Mig-21 and it's radar & radar missiles?
TaccoZ__Amigo1__ Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I like the idea very much, we need helicopters though :) If you add friendly IR SAMs to the friendly TAs it would prevent the migs with only a few flares to kill many groundpounders. Also the A-10s have Mavericks, AIM-9s and can take a good amount of hits from R-3R or R-60M (fishbed missles). Death is just nature's way of telling you to watch your airspeed. :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Iberian Posted June 10, 2015 Author Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I like the idea, but how would you keep everything else from being creamed by the Mig-21 and it's radar & radar missiles? Defensive maneuvering vs a MiG-21 is something the pilots have to work out and learn by themselves :thumbup: MiG-21 wouldn't be the only threat out there. So far the event seems to be planned for August. Just to have an idea of what the roster might look like, which aircraft would you guys like to reserve for yourself? Just name 2 choices in order of preference. Edited June 10, 2015 by Iberian [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
*Rage* Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Great idea! I would love to have a korea type scenario with Mig15s vs F86s and maybe su25s for a2g or a vietnam type scenario (Mig21 vs..., ) 51st would like to reserve 4 slots. 1st choice mig21, 2nd choice mig15. I hope this event takes off :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
TurboRUSH Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 This is a fantastic idea. Mig-21 for fighter and Mi-8 for a2g.
Ultra Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Defensive maneuvering vs a MiG-21 is something the pilots have to work out and learn by themselves I don't think it's impossible or anything and I'm all for using all the aircraft we have, but don't the Hawk and C-101 both not have RWR? And the F-86 and Mig-15 definitely do not have RWR. Aren't they just going to take the 21's radar missiles in the face, from BVR, without knowing they're coming?
*Rage* Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Perhaps we could limit to only heaters/guns... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Ultra Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Perhaps we could limit to only heaters/guns... I agree, that would work well and allow all planes to be more viable. :thumbup:
Frostie Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 The R-3R is a bit overpowered as it is, heaters only sounds like a good idea. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Iberian Posted June 19, 2015 Author Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Sounds good, I'll remove radar guided missiles from the bases. The amount of airplanes available was limited to have players use a variety of all airframes. When the official announcement is made, aircraft will be distributed on a first come - first serve basis...if your first choice is filled up, you'll be placed on your second or third selection. Aircrafts available: Mi8 x4 each side Ka50 x4 each side Huey x4 each side MiG21 x4 each side MiG15 x3 each side F86 x3 each side (note: Red Sabres have USAF skin but no stripes... BLUE Sabres will have black stripes on their wings.) Hawk x2 each side Su25T x4 RED | x2 BLUE A10C x2 RED | x4 BLUE Su25 x3 RED ONLY A10A x3 BLUE ONLY C101CC pending release The city of ZUGDIDI is naturally divided by a river. Each side will have 10 camps, red camps to the west, blue camps to the east. All 10 camps have to be destroyed to win the mission, or eliminate all enemy aircrafts. Players will have 1 life. Reds have Sukhumi and Gudauta airfields. Blues have Kobuleti and Batumi airfields. Although red helos start at Sukhumi, and blue helos start at Kobuleti...Each side has 2 FARPs within 9 miles of the target areas, so that helicopters can be serviced without needing to fly all the way back to their starting airfield. Map will be set to view yourself only. No external views. Edited June 19, 2015 by Iberian [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostie Posted June 19, 2015 Posted June 19, 2015 I feel having that many aircraft in the air using a sporadic team selection with the same types on both sides and no iff is a recipe for plenty of teamkills and disgruntled customers. In such a scenario a human GCI would be a welcome addition. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Iberian Posted June 20, 2015 Author Posted June 20, 2015 I feel having that many aircraft in the air using a sporadic team selection with the same types on both sides and no iff is a recipe for plenty of teamkills and disgruntled customers. In such a scenario a human GCI would be a welcome addition. I agree, that is possible if the players don't take the time to visually ID the markings. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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