Flogger23m Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Getting started. I can't use the artwork i found so far. So I must trace over everything in Photoshop. It would be allright for skins in Il-2 sturmovik, but the DCS MiG-21 uses far more larger and more detailed textures. So something low-res as this example would look horrible on the Leatherneck MiG-21. Nice work so far. May I ask how you trace over the emblems? It turned out great in this example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) I used a few available photographs which some helpfull forum members pointed out earlier in this thread (see page 1 and 2) And I used a rather low-res example of the same emblem I found on the internet. The anchor inside the polish airforce roundel/square was the hardest part, because none of the photo's showed its exact shape or outline. It turned out that the points of the anchor are actually lion's heads. It is a rather strange but also beautiful symbology. Especially because the town of Łask is 100's of kilometers away from any coastline. I used and adapted the coat of arms of the polish town Łask for that. I used the 'pen' tool in photoshop extensively as you can see in the screenshot. All in all, there are about a dozen layers. The emblem I used for tracing wasn't a 100% match for the emblem that is used on the MiG-21. But the changes were easy to make. In the end, I adjusted the size to about 25 to 30% for final placement. The seadragon emblem is a bit more detailed then the one on the real MiG, since I suspect they painted it by hand or something. But it looks awesome :) In the case of the eagle, I did it mostly by hand. The 'pen' tool isn't really helpfull there. Edited July 3, 2015 by 1.JaVA_Platypus Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Cr@p, I just noticed I forgot the two teeth of the dragon :doh: Edited July 3, 2015 by 1.JaVA_Platypus Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flogger23m Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Thanks for the reply. I had a feeling you were using the pen tool. That must take a long time. Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myszak Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Wow. It looks great. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 This one is more up close but different, dunno why. But it's fairly easy to draw anyway: More photos: http://www.przemkko.strefa.pl/m_walkaround/mig_21_zloty.html http://apachemodel.blogspot.cz/2012/11/mig-21-zoty-z-krakkowskeigo-muzeum.html http://archiwum.plastikowe.pl/galerie/mig-21mf I found this webpage: http://archeolask.pl/cms/index.php/zoty-q9107q From the pictures it seems that this particular aircraft has undergone some kind of restoration. I want to make the livery in the most original version. So I'll use the cool 'stencil' font. Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just to be on the safe side, promise You will show us the template before release, so we can spell-check what You've written on "our" MiG (two typos above already, must've been a good beer :D ). Does this make any sense?: przy laczeniu i rozłączaniu kadluba krawedz natarcia stabilizatora opuscic w dol Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 That's what it says here anyways, just to let you know because the text is too small to read unfortunatly. :lol: Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myszak Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 Does this make any sense?: przy laczeniu i rozłączaniu kadluba krawedz natarcia stabilizatora opuscic w dol Yes it have sense. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 A couple of diacritics specific for Polish alphabet missing here and there - should be "Przy łączeniu i rozłączaniu kadłuba krawędź natarcia stabilizatora opuścić w dół", which means "During connecting and disconnecting of the (rear) fuselage, keep the leading edge of the (horizontal) stabilizer low", but that's OK, since I don't believe many players will zoom in to read service stencils on the airframe :D. Not many skin makers bother with recreating these! Which means You're crazy ;). i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) I am recreating these stencils from photographic evidence. I use the font "elefant" for it. It seems pretty close. But some unique Polish characters are not present in this font. So I have to add the accents manually by paintbrush. Most of the stencils will be barely readable so I think this is a valid solution. But really, I appreciate all the input. If more walk-around photos are available from Polish MiG-21's, I would like to see it. :) Nie jestem szalony, moja matka mnie zbadał :megalol: Edited July 9, 2015 by 1.JaVA_Platypus Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I need a bit of help on the next text. It is on the forward speedbrakes. Google translate can't seem to find the proper spelling for the word: "zabezpieceyć" in the sentence. This is what I found so far: podczas pracy we wnękach klap hamulcowych otworzyć zawór cyrkulacji i zabezpieceyć klapę przed zamknięcien Is it correct spelling? Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Almost ;). It's "zabezpieczyć" (which in technical context means secure/lock/fasten etc.) and "zamknięciem". So the stencil says that during any service work in the air brake bays one should open the circulation valve and lock the brake flap so it doesn't close by accident. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulleader Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah a real nightmare with repaint but once agaon a great work. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic93192_6.gif[/sIGPIC] My Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006748814655 My P-51D's Mod: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=142739 One of my few skins : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1452845/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I didn't know there were THAT many stencils and texts... :helpsmilie::lol: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-Maker-Decals-1-32-MIKOYAN-MiG-21-FIGHTER-POLISH-STENCILS-/361158328116 Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Well, You asked for it, You stencil pervert :D :D :D. No turning back now! i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yeah I did ask for it. :music_whistling::lol: The pictures I found on Ebay shows the MiG-21PFM and BIS, but not the MF version. I don't know the exact differences between those three versions, (except different arrangements in the Pitot tube and the AOA sensor) But if you examine the stencils, there are differences as well. The MF looks like the BIS, so I'll use that as a guide and check photographs a lot. Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cro_mig_21 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Two of the biggest visual differences are the spine and nose section, this illustration shows it quite good: Btw..awesome work and detail on the skin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 an extremely boring in-progress shot. :D I am actually starting to recognize some words. :smartass: Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Well, You asked for it, You stencil pervert :D :D :D. No turning back now! Well, the thing is that the stencils are really pronounced. The red and blue colors are very visible on the MiG-21. So I think it is part of the artwork. And I found some very helpfull schematics on the web, so it would be very lazy for me NOT to add the polish stencils. :pilotfly: Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Anybody knows what the text in the red circle is? Google translate can't cope with it. Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 It won't cope with terms which are too technical; declination of the second noun doesn't help either I'd guess. "Zlew" means sink/drain, while "odstój" is sediment, or any deposit left at the bottom of a fluid tank. You showed only a part of the drawing, but I presume the stencil is written somewhere below the main fuel tank. So it's probably the drain point for this tank - every plane has a couple of these to deal with water or any other contamination of the fuel. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myszak Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Hi. Any progress with paint job? Regards :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm really looking forward to this skin! Amazing, the level of detail that's going into it! Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonescraper Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Anybody knows what the text in the red circle is? Google translate can't cope with it. It says "ZLEW ODSTOJU". At least that's my best guess, since it's quite blurry. And yeah, it means "sediment sink" just like Art-J explained few posts above. Anyway, your progress is great so far, i'm looking forward to fly that beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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