SandMartin Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Guys, what fighter is better in close range, dogfight mode? F14A Tomcat or Tornado F2? What aircraft has better manuvrebility, turn rate and vertical speed? Мой youtube канал Группа в VK IBM x3200 Tower, i7 9700k, Asus Z390-P, HyperX Fury DDR4 2x16Gb 3466 Mhz, HyperX Savage 480Gb SSD, Asus RTX3070 Dual OC 8G, 32" Asus PG329Q, Creative Sound Blaster AE-5, HyperX Cloud Alpha + Pulsefire FPS Pro + Alloy FPS brown, Track IR 4 PRO + Clip Pro, Warhog HOTAS + CH Pro Pedal + есть руль Logitech G25
WinterH Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 I don't really have the hard numbers but, as far as I know, Tornado and agility aren't quite compatible, not against dedicated fighters anyway. Assuming a neutral merge with nearishly skilled pilots, I would expect F-14 vs Tornado in WVR to be more or less no-contest. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
BlackLion213 Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 Well, I have never heard of the two tangling in real life. Everything that I've heard is hearsay. That said, the origins of the two platforms would give the advantage to the F-14. There are plenty of criticisms of both the F-14 (deserved or not) and the Tornado for not being agile enough. With the F-14, most sources report it as very maneuverable with some claiming (mostly USAF trash-talking) that it was a sitting duck at the hands of F-16s. The numbers for STR/ITR paint a favorable picture of the F-14 on the maneuvering front. I don't see any reports of the Tornado being maneuverable compared to other 4th gen fighters. So the chit-chat favors the F-14A, but I have no data to support it. -Nick
joey45 Posted June 20, 2015 Posted June 20, 2015 The tornado F.# was designed to intercept bombers. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
captain_dalan Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 The tornado F.# was designed to intercept bombers. This is something i've read as well, but i have never seen any hard numbers or E-M charts. Supposedly the dedicated interceptor version were pretty good at BVR. I most certainly love their "feel" and look. Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache
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