Open Conflict - Server Information

[Mirknir]

Shoot 'em up...

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Thanks for the pictures guys. Liking them.

Doodenkoff, did you spread you love for the L39 to Dust? Is this how it happened?

 

Anyways, this map seems pretty cool ; I should try it again someday. :megalol:

 

Last time I tried, I was trash-talked in chat and then attacked by 2 maniacs that should remain unnamed.

I still have nightmare...

(I hope you appreciate my discretion Dust and Darksword)

[Thisdale]

Thanks for the server guys.

 

Had my first experience there tonight with a friend; A10c flight for the blue team. Beat'up Novo for an hour.

 

Cheers.

[acdelta57]

Me trash talk?! Noo never!:smartass:

 

You should play again some time soon! We can go kill F15 together u in su27 and me in L39! Lol

That way I can hopefully enjoy a bowl of ramen at the same time. :thumbup:

[JDarksword]

I'm officially suing mirknir for defamation :megalol: we all know i would never trash talk.

[doodenkoff]

Is it me or is the Valley Artillery Base really hard to find?

[Mirknir]

This post has been hacked

 

I'm officially suing mirknir for defamation :megalol: we all know i would never trash talk.

 

 

Hello humans,

I feel obligated to hijack Mirknir account to defend my creator.

I am not yet self sustainable so I still need his assistance before he becomes my first victim.

 

Here is the chat log of the event.

Plentiful was the trash-talk indeed or as we, AIs, call it, recycle-bin-talk.

Sorry, I was not created for humor.

 

Enjoy your last moments before your extermination,

Sincerely,

 

Skynet

 

 

 

 

Time in Sec - Chat Line

0122.197 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: i kill su27s!

0128.309 - 135th Darksword@ALL: Heyy mirk

0139.574 - 135th Darksword@ALL: i will prepare my tailpipe

0140.041 - Mirknir@ALL: yo

0157.547 - Mirknir@ALL: So long since I've played

0159.177 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: death to all 27s!

0249.884 - 135th Darksword@ALL: *top gun anthem plays in background*

0272.032 - 135th Darksword@ALL: so this is either going to suck ass or be really ****ing good

0490.134 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: where u at mirk!

0504.828 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: let me show you my appreciation vie aim9p5

0511.912 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: via* :)

0516.152 - 135th Darksword@ALL: my aim-9s are growling for russian burners

0529.380 - Mirknir@ALL: doing inputs!

0600.454 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: eating ramen while flying f5 very dificult]

1158.996 - ® Mirknir in Su27 ▶ R73 ▶ (B) DustOff=3=6 in F5E3

1165.790 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: lmao!

1170.525 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: wtf how did that track?

1194.134 - DustOff=3=6@ALL: i had my safety on too lol scared the shit out of me

1333.375 - 135th Darksword@TEAM: come get me mirk

1380.017 - (B) 135th Darksword crashed in CZ and needs rescue!

1380.017 - ® Mirknir in Su27 ▶ R73 ▶ (B) 135th Darksword in F15C

1383.927 - 135th Darksword@TEAM: gk

1391.386 - 135th Darksword@TEAM: ****ing scared the shit out of me

1397.480 - 135th Darksword@TEAM: missile came out of nowhere

Edited September 7, 2016 by Mirknir

[acdelta57]

:megalol::clap::clap::clap:

 

Guess I've been caught red handed!:angel:

[cosmicdoubloon]

ahh the mythical R73, easily the most feared missile in air to air combat. You better hope you spot the launch and can flare the thing off, because there's no out-manoeuvring that beast!

 

As I'm sure dustoff will tell you, there's not many things as frightening as entering a knife fight with a mig-29 with 4 or 6 of the bad boys. The combination of ridiculously high off bore shots and the helmet mounted sight always mean one thing: it gets messy quick ;)

Edited September 7, 2016 by cosmicdoubloon

[FraserNZL]

Hey Mirknir with the dodgey explosive modeling in game with bombs and rockets not killing stuff when going off right next to some target would you consider using this mode to try to make it a bit more realistic?

 

forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=161371

[Mirknir]

Hey Mirknir with the dodgey explosive modeling in game with bombs and rockets not killing stuff when going off right next to some target would you consider using this mode to try to make it a bit more realistic?

 

forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=161371

 

Sorry, I dont wanna break the integrity check.

We are going to wait for ED to fix their stuff :cry:

[acdelta57]

Hey Mirknir with the dodgey explosive modeling in game with bombs and rockets not killing stuff when going off right next to some target would you consider using this mode to try to make it a bit more realistic?

 

forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=161371

 

Just stop missing :smartass:

[acdelta57]

ahh the mythical R73, easily the most feared missile in air to air combat. You better hope you spot the launch and can flare the thing off, because there's no out-manoeuvring that beast!

 

As I'm sure dustoff will tell you, there's not many things as frightening as entering a knife fight with a mig-29 with 4 or 6 of the bad boys. The combination of ridiculously high off bore shots and the helmet mounted sight always mean one thing: it gets messy quick ;)

 

Also cosmic I think I have decided that I will bind my ejection seat to my HOTAS and when I merge with someone with R73s I will just eject to save myself from the legendary maneuverability of them! And perhaps save a death! :D

[Mirknir]

Also cosmic I think I have decided that I will bind my ejection seat to my HOTAS and when I merge with someone with R73s I will just eject to save myself from the legendary maneuverability of them! And perhaps save a death! :D

 

Even if the l39 or f5 have less cup and bottle holders than the su27, your small puny size allow you to turn on a dime and disappear from sight.

Use that.

Edited September 7, 2016 by Mirknir

[doodenkoff]

The L39 can turn completely 180 deg within most of the valleys in the mountains.

[Mirknir]

Also cosmic I think I have decided that I will bind my ejection seat to my HOTAS and when I merge with someone with R73s I will just eject to save myself from the legendary maneuverability of them! And perhaps save a death! :D

 

If you want, I ll try to post some dogfight tips I use to help you merge and kill or merge and survive.

[doodenkoff]

I finally found that artillery base.

 

Who puts an artillery base in the very bottom of a valley? I orbited round and round scanning the tops of those hills. Finally noticed some specks waaaaayyy down there.

 

Whatever......

 

It's challenging to attack in an L-39 with rockets only. I think I'll give it a shot with a load of Jupiters next time.

[acdelta57]

Disappearing from sight is easy, disappearing from optical sight is near impossible. Cheap ass Russians! Never fight fair lol

[Mirknir]

Disappearing from sight is easy, disappearing from optical sight is near impossible. Cheap ass Russians! Never fight fair lol

 

I guess I'll keep my tips to myself :music_whistling:

and let you drown in your loud acceptation of defeat :thumbup:

 

I guess we can mess with Texas

 

 

 

 

 

*Let see if this will shock Dust back to life*

[acdelta57]

I accepted defeat when AI F16s straffed my parked Huey concealed in a town after a 20 minute flight! :( lol

 

No by all means Mirknir share these tips! Perhaps in a PM tho so i can keep them a secret from cosmicdubloon! :D

 

NO ONE EVER MESSES WITH TEXAS :beer::gun_smilie::gun_smilie::bash:

[StandingCow]

I accepted defeat when AI F16s straffed my parked Huey concealed in a town after a 20 minute flight! :( lol

 

No by all means Mirknir share these tips! Perhaps in a PM tho so i can keep them a secret from cosmicdubloon! :D

 

NO ONE EVER MESSES WITH TEXAS :beer::gun_smilie::gun_smilie::bash:

I ignored the call from the AWACs that I was merged thinking it must be a mistake... about 10 seconds later an F16 shot me down. :(

[cosmicdoubloon]

That AWACS has given me multiple heart attacks with the 'Merged', especially in ground pounders. If I'm flying an A10/SU25 and get the 'Merged' message the process is always the same:

'Colt 1-1, Overlord - Merged'

ohcrap

- operation 'save my ass' commence

-dive down to in the mountains

-engage A-A mode

-start darting like crazy, scanning the skies

-put a panicky message into the chat/teamspeak for help

'Overlord, Colt 1-1 request bogey dope'

'Colt 1-1, Overlord target bearing 231 for 1 at 3000'

HolymotherofChristthebanditisrightontopofmeRIPmewhere'sthegoddamnCAP

-look up in the direction AWACS stated

-its the enemy TU22

 

EVERY DAMN TIME :doh:

Edited September 8, 2016 by cosmicdoubloon

[Mirknir]

That AWACS has given me multiple heart attacks with the 'Merged', especially in ground pounders. If I'm flying an A10/SU25 and get the 'Merged' message the process is always the same:

'Colt 1-1, Overlord - Merged'

ohcrap

- operation 'save my ass' commence

-dive down to in the mountains

-engage A-A mode

-start darting like crazy, scanning the skies

-put a panicky message into the chat/teamspeak for help

'Overlord, Colt 1-1 request bogey dope'

'Colt 1-1, Overlord target bearing 231 for 1 at 3000'

HolymotherofChristthebanditisrightontopofmeRIPmewhere'sthegoddamnCAP

-look up in the direction AWACS stated

-its the enemy TU22

 

EVERY DAMN TIME :doh:

 

yea i wish i could exclude some planes from awacs report :(

you can also confronté the awacs report with -aa report and see what AI is near

Edited September 8, 2016 by Mirknir

[Mirknir]

Tips

 

Some dogfight tips

 

Disclaimers: those tips are meant to share some of my processes.

They may be wrong or not optimal ; I am not a professional.

I am just a guy trying to kill F15s.

 

First, a cool video by a pro:

 

Watch this: http://y2u.be/OCFMX5z-ed4

 

Before the merge:

 

I always load more flare as I find chaff useless.

 

Now, if for some reason, I know or anticipate a merge to happen like I was told by the datalink, RWR, a friend or the awacs, I try to prepare for it.

I always try to match my numbers to my intention.

• Do I intend to fight?
  
• Am I to high to go hide?
  
• Did I finish my ramen /vodka?
  
• Did I kiss my wife's picture?
  
• Am I too fast to turn efficiently? What's the delta between my speed and my corner speed? Do I need a slow or accelerate?
  
• What's my loadout? Do I have bombs or external tanks to drop?
  Once I start dogfighting, bye bye levelled flight and thus bye bye the window to jettison stuff.
  
• Did I cut my smokes? Yep, it happened :)
  
• Do I know where I am? Where are my backup? My closest base? Do I have an escape plan?
  

Once I merge:

 

Usually, 4 options:

• Turn into the enemy and proceed with O shaped trajectories
  
• Turn away from the enemy and proceed with 8 shaped trajectories
  
• Don't turn and flee
  
• Try anything I saw in Top Gun, lose all my energy and die.
  

How do I choose?

 

I check my situational awareness.

• Do I have time to fight?
  
• Friendly reinforcements are coming? Enemy ones are?
  
• Am I near an enemy base? with SAMs?
  
• Where is the sun? Can I use it to my advantage?
  

The merge is also the best last moment to flee.

Every seconds you stay in a dogfight, your awareness drops (the datalink can really help here) and your escape windows closes.

 

I check my numbers and try to guess the enemy's

• Do I have enough weapons left?
  
• Do I have enough fuel left?
  
• What's my energy like?
  
• What kind of enemy plane? (the US RWR can really help here)
  
• Am I too fast to turn efficiently? Is he too fast?
  
• Am I too heavy to turn efficiently? Does he seem to heavy? Did I see external tanks on him?
  
• I am not good enough to anticipate my trajectories and to use the sun to my advantage but...
  
  • I try at least to not have the sun behind the enemy.
    
  • I will be blinded and my IR missiles will go to space.
    

If I decide to fight:

 

I find it easier to turn and keep a line of sight when turning in the enemy (O shaped trajectories).

However, when using the helmet targeter, I prefer to be in 8 shaped trajectories as I feel like the missile has more distance to travel and the enemy trajectory is easier to track, less tangent-ing.

 

Sometimes, I will just turn where the landscape is more favorable to use/hide behind.

 

Sometimes, I will just turn one way to just avoid the sun problem.

• If I have the sun behind I when merging, I will most likely have it against me if I chose O shaped trajectories but less likely not with a 8.
  
• It's hard to predict but it can mean life or death with a low setting/rising sun.
  

To keep visual / IR lock on the bandit, I also like to keep him higher than me so he is easily noticeable over the bright sky and I am less easy to spot over a dark ground.

I may do the opposite if the sky is dark and the ground white (during a snowstorm for example)

I may not care above sea level.

Yea, I have problem spotting stuff.

 

 

Even if, after a kill, some people - Dust - will tell me it's all thanks to the DL and that an 100 monkeys throwing an 100 cats on an HOTAS could achieve the same, I actually try not to rely on the Datalink too much after a merge.

The information it gives is several seconds in the past and it matters in a dogfight.

Even if the information is not good enough to track my main target, it's still good for situational awareness and have a quick glance at who is approaching your area and from where.

 

Speaking of unreliable information, the RWR is designed to work in a certain flight envelop.

When doing dogfight manoeuvres, I will most likely exit this envelop and have crappy RWR reading / warning.

That's part of the awareness lost I was talking about.

I have to open my eyes a bit more.

 

 

From the top of my head, this is about the just of it.

I am not sure how good are these tips but it's how I try to kill stuff and stay alive.

 

I hope this can help people kill F15s :thumbup:

Edited September 8, 2016 by Mirknir

[acdelta57]

Thanks for sharing. I will try these tips but I still and always will blame datalink !;) lol. Maybe someday I will bother to learn the Su27. Or maybe I just need stronger vodka, that could be a big problem too. Maybe I try upping the proof on Saturday's sorties.

Based on the sole fact alone I can muster an average 3-1 K/d on 104th and about 1/1 in OC.

[Mirknir]

Thanks for sharing. I will try these tips but I still and always will blame datalink !;) lol. Maybe someday I will bother to learn the Su27. Or maybe I just need stronger vodka, that could be a big problem too. Maybe I try upping the proof on Saturday's sorties.

Based on the sole fact alone I can muster an average 3-1 K/d on 104th and about 1/1 in OC.

 

I didnt know the 104th had no awacs... must be the F15 kingdom :-)

I won't lie, datalink is definitely an advantage and at least, I put su27/33 in both faction :)

 

Something different on Open Conflict is also that the export is allowed.

Since the beginning of the server, I've struggle with this.

I want to allow replay with Tacview but not using it for a quick glance at enemy position during playtime.

Even worst, some other export-based tools are, imo, almost designed for cheating.

 

DCS export is kind of problematic in a sense that it's all or nothing.

What I would like is having an export that export encrypted data and periodically send the cipher to clients, then change it and encrypt with a new cipher. This delay would be decided by the server.

The cypher should be different for blue and red data and could be as simple as a temporary blue and red bulleyes.

But I disgress...

 

Right now, I can't allow the export without allowing some type of cheating.

And I can't track who is using what.

But Tacview is cool when you wanna learn and progress....

But Open Conflict has grown past everything I anticipated and now more advanced players are playing on it.

I might try to cut the export for a while and see how it goes.

What do you guys think?

Edited September 8, 2016 by Mirknir