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Hi all !

 

Its been a loooong time since I posted anything. Life makes their own plans while you make yours... :doh:

Anyway...

Iv'e Been on some forums and noticed a repeatedly asked request.

 

The majority of us knows the benefits of MSFF2 stick. have one ?! your'e one lucky BAS---D ! :lol:

 

Problem is - one and only:not enough buttons.

 

Therefore I decided on modding my beloved one, risking it and destroing not less than a Rhino X55 stick. (using the throttle only anyway along my FF2)

 

Its a bummer that I didnt took much pictures. my workshop is a total mess. but thats the most of it...

 

 

Well... this is the gimbal assembly. you probably reconginize it from earalier posts...

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The x-55 grip original PCB. Iv'e made another one from scratch and redesigned it to work with arduino.

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Another look

 

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The original and the replacement. currently just bulk board. still need to be etched.

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This is the final new "product".

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works well. I managed to reproduce the Led and detector arrengement for the motors enable\disable functionality.

 

I still need to implement a stornger torque for the motors. Thus - redesigning the H-Bridges and the power supply. but everything has its time ...

 

Cheers !

Nir Bar

"Schredder"

 

"In the warrior code there's no surrender,

though his body says stop,his spirit cries...

NEVER !!!"

Posted

Nice job sir.

 

It was only last week I did something similiar, using a CH Combatstick 568, I call it the Frankensoft Sidewinder 568 II CombatStick USB. I extended the stick by about 5cm aswell. I'm not a "handy" person so there was some anxiety after I'd torn £100 of gear apart.

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How did you connect the grip to the sidewinder?

 

Using my lathe Iv'e made an adapter from the original X55 connection to the FF2 and fixed it using Epoxy.

 

(if there will be more grips that will support this connection - it would fit)

Nir Bar

"Schredder"

 

"In the warrior code there's no surrender,

though his body says stop,his spirit cries...

NEVER !!!"

Posted

Excellent work Schredder! You get the best of both worlds with this mod for sure with a grip with lots of switches and true FFB! (Just gotta love the Arduino's! And the X-55 gave itself up for a better life. Would look at putting a 4 way on the C thumb position too.)

 

Do you still have the dimensions for the adaptor at all that you could share?

 

I will be watching this thread eagerly to see how you get on with the beefing up of the motors. (I'm testing with a pololu 33926 driver, 60mm 15W motors and some Actobotics gears. Still assembling.)

 

Well done and thanks for sharing!!!!

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I've been wanting to do this exact thing (replace the MSFF2 stick with the X-55), but I have no experience in either the required theory or practice, and whilst I can surely apply myself to the theory, once I start taking these things apart I know everything will need to go right for me to avoid a lot of wasted money (plus I think I'd feel guilty for killing a MSFF2 in prime condition).

 

Ideally, I'd love to do the stick extension as well, but the PeterP mod is so far above my capabilities that all this is just a pipe dream for now.

 

It's annoying; I just cannot go back to a spring centering stick unless I absolutely have to, but the MSFF2 stick is lacking badly, not only in buttons, but in the quality of the buttons. They are cheap and nasty, especially the feel of the trigger compared to the saitek sticks.

 

Congrats to the OP, by the way; it looks awesome.

Posted

My MSFF2 just defaults to the right lower corner of the joystick range and stays there (under force). Any ideas.....because I too modded a bit different though

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]

Posted
My MSFF2 just defaults to the right lower corner of the joystick range and stays there (under force). Any ideas.....because I too modded a bit different though

 

What mod did you do. Sounds like something wired up backwards.:(

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi again and sorry for the bump.

 

I didnt find the X55 grip ergonomic . for me anyway. thought it will be ok but its not...

anyway...

 

Back to the old school ! :smartass:

 

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and final results are...

 

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Twist action is lost. but maybe it will make me finally use my dedicated rudders ...:music_whistling:

 

Till next time...

 

Cheers !

Nir Bar

"Schredder"

 

"In the warrior code there's no surrender,

though his body says stop,his spirit cries...

NEVER !!!"

Posted

Wow, looks good. :)

System specs:

 

Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440)

Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use

 

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