this is probably done to death 1.02 vs fc

[G3]

after reading the recent poll on what version of lockon people are flying, i was interested to see a fairly split and varied response.

 

rather than mess up that thread i started this one to perhaps discuss futher the reasons people are playing that particular version of the game or using one particular patch or another.

 

maybe share your opinions on why you have held back or why you play the latest.

i would be most interested in hearing if people feel that the upgrade from 1.02 to FC is worth it for

someone who is mainly an eagle pilot, or if its worth waiting for the BS.

[Kula66]

Ok, I have 1.12a and 'play' mainly the F-15 ...

 

Is it worth waiting for BS ... If you want A2A, No ... from what I understand ... there are no fixes planned in BS for the 15 or A2A missiles - ED please correct me if I'm wrong here. BS will upgrade terrain, missile graphics and a helicopter.

 

Whats the best version, for me, 1.02 ... The 25T is fun - but I prefer A2A or the A-10.

 

In 1.12a the 15s TWS radar had some simplified unrealistic features removed but not replaced with realistic modelling ... hence it is now broken - doesn't auto-track primary target anymore. This makes multi-target engagement near impossible - the 15s greatest advantage in RL. Also, radar guided A2A missiles are broken - ability to keep lock on a hard manoeuvering target is poor, plus you don't get the realistic advantages from being higher, i.e. longer range ... needs WAFM which was dropped (or never promised) from BS. Plus the 15 (I don't know about the other fighters) is under-powered ... it can't climb anwhere near a RL 15. Plus, look down AR shots are too degraded ... All boils down to RL tactics don't work ... so you have to play to the game.

 

Why do I play 1.12a ... because OL most servers require it.

 

Is FC worth it ... for me its a small price to pay for supporting ED so yes. But for functionality ... no.

 

All IMHO of course :)

[IronWing]

Hi,

 

i fly LOMAC 1.12a version coz all servers are running 1.12a...

I'm not interesting about Black Shark coz i don't like helicopters much and I hope after Black Shark will be something better as it is now.

I would like to have new area for flying, AFM for all planes not only for Su-25T...

 

I am Mig-29 pilot and my favorite plane is Mig-29K and i wish to have this plane here :) :) :) :)

[suntrace1]

Here is my reason why i still mostly fly v1.02 - AGM45 & 88 don't work in FC and i mostly fly SEAD missions with every plane that's SEAD mission capable. F-16 (even if it's MIG29 underneath, my favorite plane in LOMAC) is a great addition.

[G3]

some great replies there, many things i have read about on the forums, all in a nutshell, terrific answers actually. appreciate it.

[Weta43]

1.1 was an addon for the (mud moving - radarless) Su-25T which also brought AFM for the Su-25.

It also brought numerous bug fixes (& attempts at bug fixes) & improvements (& attempts at improvements) for all aspects of the game - including changes to the Su-27/33 Mig-29 & F-15 ( & A-10 ?) flight models (slight), radar & A2A seeker modelling etc. Each "patch" has also tried to bring A2A gameplay/reality improvements, some of which worked well, others not so well.

I'd be very surprised (& it would seem to go against "history") if E.D. made no changes to the air to air part of the game at all, despite the main thrust of BS being mud moving with a helicopter.

[tflash]

I fly 1.12a and it took me a while to really learn to fly the Su-25T and above all to find the right joystick settings.

 

Now I'm used to it I really appreciate the AFM: it really brings something new.

 

On the endless tweaking and changing of missile/radar performance I can be short: interesting read but it brings absolutely nothing to the game but confusion.

 

I still find ED should bring out a separate patch for 1.02, just to clear some bugs and FPS performance issues. I think this works both ways: giving the thousands of customers of the original Lockon product a good, carefree gaming experience will bring more interest for the add-ons.

 

Both 1.02 and 1.12a are to me very, very good sims and games, and I'm looking forward what 1.2 will bring.

[3Sqn_Sven]

I was more than happy with 1.02. I of course changed to 1.12a because its the standard, however I don't enjoy the 25T. It's a great game but I'm an A2A man and I will only pay for BS in order to keep up with the online standard, I may get into the choppers every now and then but there's nothing I love more than the dogfighting.

 

IMHO the reason for the decline of 1.02 was due to lack of organised events by the community, not because of a lack of features. I believe that if there was perhaps a dedicated server run by ED with weekly events and missions for squads to attack and defend objectives that there could be a lot more involvement, or perhaps ways to make revenue for ED.

 

For me there been no sim I have enjoyed more than LOMAC. Going H2H against human controlled russian jets and vice versa beats in a fairly realistic manner beats every sim I've played in 10 years easily. I was happy with 1.02 but I'll continue to purchase in order to stay online!