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Hey ED Forums. I am relatively new to the MiG-21 and I want to expand my knowledge on it. However I am stuck on deciding what keys I need to map to my joystick so I don't need to continuously change them when something I need isn't mapped. :helpsmilie: Can anyone provide me a list of mandatory keys I should have mapped?

 

:pilotfly: Thanks!

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Hey ED Forums. I am relatively new to the MiG-21 and I want to expand my knowledge on it. However I am stuck on deciding what keys I need to map to my joystick so I don't need to continuously change them when something I need isn't mapped. :helpsmilie: Can anyone provide me a list of mandatory keys I should have mapped?

 

:pilotfly: Thanks!

 

You'll get a feel for it as you do the training missions.

 

The radar operation, radar filters, air/ground mode and missile mode, all the toggles on the asp i believe its called in the center. Such as shooting/bombing mode, giro/missile mode etc.

 

The Master arm for missile and gun modes, pylon selection of course, the engine forced air restart is also nice to have.

 

Everything you need for takeoff and landing is also nice. Such as all the gear commands, flaps, drag chute operation.

 

Obviously what joystick or HOTAS you have limits you here. But personally even when I was using my simple TM t flight stick, I tried to use the same controls that are on the actual plane stick. So radar lock SAU missile and gun, trim of course. Also if you don't have a hotas throttle id probably make sure to have the radar target range up and down slew on your stick along with the lock on button.

 

If you have a basic joystick with limited buttons I would say focus on weapon firing controls weapon selection, radar targeting and lock on, trimming, and leave everything else for keyboard binds. I completely redid all my keyboard binds and layed it out like an imaginary toggle switch panel. Example, q-a w-s e-d represent toggle switches up and down, all the way down the keyboard. Then I prop it up vertically with two old hard drives so its vertical right under the monitor.

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Well, there's really a lot of controls and what ones you want will be subjective to some degree. If you have the x52 pro you should have tons of buttons to choose from.

 

The training missions are good because you'll see what switches you're using commonly and then you'll see what you want.

 

I tried to layout my stick as close to the in game stick as possible. Radar lock, trim up/down, sau on/sau cancel, release fuel tank on the pinky button. Wheel brake on the pinky lever.

 

Beyond that select pylons 1 2 3 4, fire missile and gun are on the stick itself. My throttle is all engine and gear and a couple view controls and of course the slew radar range up and down to be in line with how it's controlled in the real plane with the mig21's twist throttle. All the other stuff is keyboard.

 

Choosing the layout is kind of an ongoing process that you'll finalize as you get comfortable. Getting it perfect off the start just isn't realistic. You have to play, figure out how you like to play and what will be most convenient for you.

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i have:

 

On my thumb:

trigger/gun

rockets/bombs

 

on top hat-switch:

SAU recovery and SAU off

elevator-trim

 

 

on left hat-switch:

wheel brake

radar lock

radar dist. up

radar dist. down

center-view (most clicked button)

 

right hat switch:

kneeboard control (on-off, fwd, aft)

 

on the base of the stick i have:

speed-brakes in/out

 

 

That´s it.. everything else is 60`s style.. --> move and click the mouse

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I know you have the x52 not x55 but this is my setup, hopefully it helps in some way. I have a custom toggle box that I built that does all the weapons mode switches but other then that, this is all I have mapped. Do a lot of stuff including startup procedures by clicking. Ignore scan zone stuff, I use the same image as a template a lot lol.

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I've tried to mimic the RL MiG-21 controls as much as possible, and mapped the controls that I don't want to fiddle with during the combat, like AA weapons selection, IR/SARH, gun/missiles. I've also added radar on/off, IFF id, airbrakes and countermeasures. Probably some more that I can't remember right now. :)

I found that mapping the wheelbrakes to the axis helps steering a lot.

 

A bit OT: where are the airbrakes controls in the real MiG-21?

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A bit OT: where are the airbrakes controls in the real MiG-21?

 

A thumb switch on the throttle, near the PTT button I believe.

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