Rotor shadows

[Jacks]

The shadows cast by helicopter rotors flicker too much and are too excessive. They make it difficult to fly with the sun on your back.

[BIGNEWY]

what shadow setting do you have?

[Devrim]

Isn't it normal to looks like flicker?

[NeilWillis]

I agree Devrim, I think this is an excellent new feature. I was very impressed with the new shadow performance in the UH-1H.

 

I guess ED will just have to make it an optional thing for those who can't get on with it. I personally love it!

[Viersbovsky]

In reality, due to the inertia of your eyes the rotor appears as a blur, a disk. - it stands to reason that the shadow must look like a blur too. You may see flickering rotor in videos due to convolution of rotor frequency video frequency.

 

The flickering is very irritating - I hope this gets fixed and the shadow corrected.

[Jacks]

Have shadows I high. The shadows are unrealistic and distracting.

[Devrim]

Hmmm. What Viersbovsky saying is rational. I've never been in a real helicopter. :)

...but in my very honest opinion, the blur disc thing would eat too much FPS...

[Viersbovsky]

Hmmm. What Viersbovsky saying is rational. I've never been in a real helicopter. :)

...but in my very honest opinion, the blur disc thing would eat too much FPS...

 

Isn't the blur disk like the propeller in the WW2 modules (or in the helicopters in 1.2.6)?

 

You don't need a helicopter, just take a metal fan and look at the shadow.

The shadow would simply be a like that cast by a semi transparent disk, simply a lighter shade.

I would be happy with the rotor shadow simply disappearing after a certain rotational speed is reached. If the game were to run at 1000FPS, the shadows would appear as a blur to us, but we have only approximately 100FPS to work here, so there is this frequency overlap shtick.

 

So we get that effect like in old timey movies where the wheels of cars seem to turn backwards.

 

Or this video, where video frequency and rotational frequency overlaps perfectly:

In our case though, the shadows appear all over the place, causing flickering.

 

I'm open to compromises, it is not up to me, but the current shadows cause me actual physical discomfort.

Edited October 2, 2015 by Viersbovsky

[some1]

I agree, the rotor shadow is unrealistic and annoying, especially in uh1 due to cockpit layout.

[some1]

Still there... good that I don't fly helicopters much.

 

Maybe we should send ED a fan like this, so they could study how the shadow of a spinning rotor look in real life :P

 

[Enduro14]

uh all the helicopters ive been in have rotor shadows in the pit and the troop compartment of course depends on lighting and positioning. Please keep them, i can speak for uh-60, Huey, Chinook,mh-53,Little birds, of course the shadows in real world in this instance are not as crisp as they are in game but they are pronounced enough to tell its a individual rotor blade shadow.

Edited February 16, 2016 by Enduro14

[BitMaster]

Isn't the blur disk like the propeller in the WW2 modules (or in the helicopters in 1.2.6)?

 

You don't need a helicopter, just take a metal fan and look at the shadow.

The shadow would simply be a like that cast by a semi transparent disk, simply a lighter shade.

I would be happy with the rotor shadow simply disappearing after a certain rotational speed is reached. If the game were to run at 1000FPS, the shadows would appear as a blur to us, but we have only approximately 100FPS to work here, so there is this frequency overlap shtick.

 

So we get that effect like in old timey movies where the wheels of cars seem to turn backwards.

 

Or this video, where video frequency and rotational frequency overlaps perfectly:

In our case though, the shadows appear all over the place, causing flickering.

 

I'm open to compromises, it is not up to me, but the current shadows cause me actual physical discomfort.

 

 

I agree 100%

 

It is one of the very few things I dont like about the new engine. A more simple and steady shadow would match the RL effect much more.

 

Up to a certain rpm and then switch to a disc like shadow casting.

[some1]

uh all the helicopters ive been in have rotor shadows in the pit and the troop compartment of course depends on lighting and positioning. Please keep them, i can speak for uh-60, Huey, Chinook,mh-53,Little birds, of course the shadows in real world in this instance are not as crisp as they are in game but they are pronounced enough to tell its a individual rotor blade shadow.

 

Yes, in reality you can distinguish separate blades, especially if your eyeballs follow the blade direction. But it looks nothing like the flickering mess we currently have in game.

[Devrim]

Is that cleared in DCS World; We see environment trough a human eye or a camera?

I mean, we judge what we see according to an eye or camera?

[Enduro14]

I don't notice any flickering maybe I don't have any or maybe I'm just focused on flying and it's just background noise as they say

[Devrim]

Finally I've found a video, you can see rotor flickering shadows.

 

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I checked many videos, in all videos, users turned off cockpit shadows I think, I couldn't see rotor shadow in cockpit.

[Черный Дракул]

It's 2020 now and the problem is still unresolved:

It's a pain to play helicopters since 2.5. And I like DCS for it's helicopters...

In 1.5 this problem didn't exist, for me at least.

Edited February 9, 2020 by Черный Дракул

[Черный Дракул]

I wonder if anyone even looks into this. ED has released a new trailer:

You can clearly see shadow flicker there and ED doesn't seem to bother with it.

Also, rotor blades just randomly shimmer as they never do in real life as well, which is both tiring to the eye and annoying.

 

I've noticed this topic doesn't receive a lot of player attention as well. Perhaps there is a mod somewhere that everyone uses to fix this?

[some1]

I don't know about any such mod, except turning off the shadows completely.

 

And you know what? With the glass cabin roofs in the upcoming Mi-24 you'll get even more flickering shadows in the cockpit!