ClayM Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Latest attempt. I know the 1/4" switches need to go. When I do the change to aluminum backplates I will go for accurate switches. But for now they function just fine and I'm still at proof of concept stage. Clay
Lars Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) ClayM: I did something wrong on the lines below AC GEN PWR. Sorry for that. I will correct asap. Oh.... never mind. It looks like you did some editing there yourself? Is that correct? Edited November 17, 2015 by Lars
ClayM Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Sorry Lars I forgot to mention that! I wasn't sure but because every other panel has the "OFF" in the center of the switch that must correct. So, yes I did do a little editing. I did have every intention to let you know about it but my mind gets a little scrambled after a long day and staying up too late working on the pit! I was just happy to get it done. Clay
Lars Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 No problem for me. But I think the panel was "correct" the way it was.
Lars Posted November 18, 2015 Author Posted November 18, 2015 I don't give up until I have the correct fonts on the panels. I have edited the the ELEC PWR panels with the MilSpec 33558 font. Could anyone try download this DXF. file and see if it is possible to work with and give me some feedback. If it works I will correct the text on all the panels to the correct font. -LarsDXF ELEC POWER Acryl FRONT NEW FONT.rar
Nikolas_A Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I think MS33558 is for gauges. For panels I've found Futura Condensed or TradeGothicNo.18-Condensed to be closer, at least for the F-16 panels.
ClayM Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Greetings Lars This is what I think know so far. Remember I'm new to this and could ,of course, be wrong altogether. .DXF files don't do fonts. When you convert your CAD drawing to .DXF no info on the font is embedded in the file. It doesn't matter if we all have that font installed on our systems. There is nothing in a .DXF file to recognize a font. My understanding is that you have to convert text to polylines in your CAD program before exporting to .DXF. So when I open your current file the text is actually long strings of info about the font details. Maybe someone else has better info for you. Thanks Clay
Lars Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 From pictures it looks like most of the panels in the A10-C uses the MS33558 font and thanks for the feedback. I have done a workaround but it takes a lot of work to do it on all the panels if this works. Can you guys give it a try?ELEC PWR TOPP.rar
ClayM Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Lars Latest file works. I will cut now and take pics Clay
agrasyuk Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 .DXF files don't do fonts. When you convert your CAD drawing to .DXF no info on the font is embedded in the file. It doesn't matter if we all have that font installed on our systems. There is nothing in a .DXF file to recognize a fonts Dxf files can very well have text objects, to see the text properly you do need to have the font installed. Text objects cannot be processed directly, at least not by my laser cam software. TXTEXP command in AutoCAD is used to explode text objects into polylines. Obviously text will no longer be available for editing so I make a copy on dedicated "unexploded text" layer in case need to edit arises. Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
ClayM Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Latest file results As you can see there is some issues. Toolpaths for letter B, R,O and S are not correct. DXF file looks good but cam program produces strange toolpaths. I don'y know why but I am going to try and figure it out . Maybe there is an issue with the font? Anton Thanks for the clarification! I'm still trying to understand the details. Have you tried the MS35588 font? Thanks Clay Edited November 20, 2015 by ClayM
Lars Posted November 20, 2015 Author Posted November 20, 2015 Thank you ClayM for giving it a try. It may be a problem with the font, but I extruded the font in inventor so its just outlines in the .dfx file if you understand me. Could you give me a heads up if you find out the problem is in your end? -Lars
Lars Posted November 20, 2015 Author Posted November 20, 2015 Dxf files can very well have text objects, to see the text properly you do need to have the font installed. Text objects cannot be processed directly, at least not by my laser cam software. TXTEXP command in AutoCAD is used to explode text objects into polylines. Obviously text will no longer be available for editing so I make a copy on dedicated "unexploded text" layer in case need to edit arises. If its not much to ask, could you try out the latest ELEC PWR panel? -Lars
agrasyuk Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Lara, not at all, Will try out later today. For now I was able to import it into lasercad without issues. with my drawings I find I need to issue PURGE command to get rid of all kind of invisible orphan objects, otherwise china laser software crashed. Clay, I do have the ms font installed and use it pretty much on all panels (even on those that use a different one, which sparked quite a debate). Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
Lars Posted November 20, 2015 Author Posted November 20, 2015 Lara, not at all, Will try out later today. For now I was able to import it into lasercad without issues. with my drawings I find I need to issue PURGE command to get rid of all kind of invisible orphan objects, otherwise china laser software crashed. Clay, I do have the ms font installed and use it pretty much on all panels (even on those that use a different one, which sparked quite a debate). I can be a Lara for you, no problem and thanks for helping out. What I do is to create the panels in 3D with the use of Autodesk Inventor and export as DXF. Only problem is with the "D" that wont extrude and then what happens is Inventor wont let me extrude any text at all I have do draw the "D" manually and it works out fine. It takes time but worth it to get the right font on the panels IMO.
agrasyuk Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Oh, sorry about that. I managed to cut myself quite deeply in left thumb the other day, typing on a cellphone with bandages is quite a task. S and A letters are right there :) Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
MA_Goblin Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 :megalol: Sorry to hear about your accident but Lars reply was funny. Get well soon. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _____________Semper paratus, In hoc signo vinces________________ PC: Intel i7-8700K (4.9 GHz), Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 MB, Gigabyte RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR3 (3,2 GHz), Samsung EVO 860 M.2 500 GB SSD + Samsung 960 M.2 250 GB SSD Gaming: Virpil T-50 CM2, TM WH Throttle, Crosswind pedals, HP Reverb
hegykc Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Hi Lars, I will too be trying out the panels soon. Is it the 33558 font you are talking about? Cause I fixed that one in a font editor, as I also do everything in cad and some letters were open loops and wouldn't extrude. I'll gladly send it to you. www.replikagear.com
Lars Posted November 20, 2015 Author Posted November 20, 2015 Ah then you had the same problem as me. Very frustrating that one! I would really appreciate if you could send it to me, would save me allot of time that's for sure! If you give me some days I will fix all the panels with the correct font and do some final polish. -Lars
hegykc Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Sent. Well it's the MS33558, and you won't have problems with it in a graphic program. But in cad every single dot has to be perfect, and there it wasn't. One (or more I can't remember) of the letters had a tiny line missing. I've downloaded the font from several places, same thing. Anyway I think it's a problem only for cad modeling, if you use textures in your models and presentations, you're fine. I don't think it would be a problem for engraving, as many of the guys here are using it just fine. Actually, ALL of their "D's" are open loops, haha suckers :) And this might come in handy too. I wanted to re-make the whole font per the standard, but thought what the heck I'll just try this font editor stuff first. And it's a little vector program, displays each charachter and there is a button "check for all broken lines" and you just go next next next and connect them again, and you get yourself a cad friendly font. It's the MS33558, whether that is the correct font, I don't know, but that's the one I fixed for cad use. Edited November 20, 2015 by hegykc www.replikagear.com
agrasyuk Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Lars (that A indeed came out quite funny :) ) tried out the engraving, not on acrylic but on my positioning plate as i couldn't find anything better at that moment. lettering engraved just fine without any modifications as i expected, even the "D"s. as far as outline notice that double line on the top and right edges . this happened because outline of the panel is drawn in poly-line probably because the 3d model has that rounding of the edge (i stopped the execution after the first pass) . no idea if maybe that's how you need things, but if i were to cut your panels i would need to explode all the poly objects and delete the leftovers. Edited November 20, 2015 by agrasyuk Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
hegykc Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Yes all the panels have those leftovers form the cad program, double outlines 0.5mm apart, from the fillet you use for softer edges when rendering. You can either delete the fillets, or just delete the inner outline when opening the dxf. I deleted it in the attached oneDXF ELEC POWER Acryl FRONT.rar www.replikagear.com
Lars Posted November 20, 2015 Author Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) That looked very good Anton. Thank you for your help. The reason my panels has 2 outer lines is an option for people that want to use chaimfer on the edges. If not just delete the inner of the outer lines :D If the lines causes confusion maybe its best I delete them? (If we are talking about the same lines?) Thanks again for your help! Edited November 20, 2015 by Lars
hegykc Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Yeah that's for the cnc guys. I guess they would choose their own offset anyway based on their drill bit. Laser guys need to delete it first. www.replikagear.com
Recommended Posts