Can't bind Saitek X52 POV

[moggel]

Hi everyone,

 

Sorry for posting this here as I guess it really belongs in the Bugs >> Controllers section. But for some unknown reason I'm not allowed to post new threads in there. I have no idea why but, hopefully, some mod could move this post to where it belongs ...

 

My problem is: I've just recently fired up the sim again after several years, as I would like to get back in shape before DCS 2.0 is released. I've started softly with the F-15C, just to get going, but I'm having problems getting my HOTAS operational. I have programmed my trusty old X52 POV as buttons to control the radar cursor but it doesn't work. I have double checked that the programming is OK by opening Notepad to check the output as I push and pull the POV button and everything looks as expected. But in the sim the radar cursor isn't moving at all. I have tried this both in v1.2 and the v1.5 open beta with the same result.

 

I then tried to remove the programming and bind the POV directly in the sim but that's also not possible. The binding UI doesn't react at all when I push/pull the POV on the stick.

 

So, either I've goofed up and missed something very basic somewhere or the sim just doesn't work properly with the X52.

 

Any hints or suggestions are appreciated.

 

Cheers,

Jonas

[dburne]

Could it be that the sim has assigned the POV by default as looking around, and that may be conflicting with it acting as buttons that you have assigned?

[moggel]

Could it be that the sim has assigned the POV by default as looking around, and that may be conflicting with it acting as buttons that you have assigned?

 

Good point, but nothing happens at all, within the sim, when I move the POV. I do have a Track IR active but I don't think that would interfere with any bindings the sim might support.

[dburne]

Good point, but nothing happens at all, within the sim, when I move the POV. I do have a Track IR active but I don't think that would interfere with any bindings the sim might support.

 

Yes, having Track IR active would prevent the POV hat from looking around even if it is set to do so. You can pause the TIR and then see if the POV hat does look around when moving it. If it does, then it is assigned to that function and that may be conflicting with what you are trying to do.

Alternatively you can check the bindings in the controller menu and see if the POV hat is assigned to view.

[moggel]

Yes, having Track IR active would prevent the POV hat from looking around even if it is set to do so. You can pause the TIR and then see if the POV hat does look around when moving it. If it does, then it is assigned to that function and that may be conflicting with what you are trying to do.

Alternatively you can check the bindings in the controller menu and see if the POV hat is assigned to view.

 

Ok, I turned off the TIR and retried it but nothing happens in the sim when I move the POV. The mouse is what's to be used for looking around. Also, I double checked the binding in config and nothing is bound to the POV in sim.

[Blech]

Hi,

 

Is the driver / SST-Software up to date ?

http://www.saitek.com/uk/down/drivers.php

 

Delete the subfolder ...\F-15C

C:\Users\ xxx \Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input\F-15C

 

Run a repair -> Start / All programs / Eagle Dynamics / DCS World / DCS World repair

 

Start DCS without Profiler and TIR

The F15 Control options should be default (screenshot)

Test the POV with Mouse Look OFF (LAlt C)

 

If it is OK now, I would not edit/change the default POV-View settings

 

For other functions I would use the POV in combination with a "MODIFIER"

In game : ADD the Pinkie switch (JOY_BTN6) to MODIFIERS

 

In the SST Software you have Mode 1,2,3 without or with Pinkie

[moggel]

In game : ADD the Pinkie switch (JOY_BTN6) to MODIFIERS

 

Ok, I have updated the SST drivers but that didn't help.

I also went ahead and deleted the F15 config/input folder before I ran a repair. The configuration is now like in your screenie, with the POV hat tied to view (which isn't very useful to me; I rely on the TIR for looking around). But how do I add the pinkie to "MODIFIERS" in game?

 

Thanks

[Blech]

Hi,

 

This is only the standard setup with TIR ( plugin TIR and no deleting of the standard POV-views in the X52-column)

If TIR is active and not in "PAUSE" - you´ll look around with TIR

If TIR is not active or in "PAUSE" - you`ll look around with the POV

 

 

Screenshot above

Click on MODIFIERS

Right window : SWITCHES - ADD - Saitek 52 - JOY_BTN6

[moggel]

Hi,

 

This is only the standard setup with TIR ( plugin TIR and no deleting of the standard POV-views in the X52-column)

If TIR is active and not in "PAUSE" - you´ll look around with TIR

If TIR is not active or in "PAUSE" - you`ll look around with the POV

 

 

Screenshot above

Click on MODIFIERS

Right window : SWITCHES - ADD - Saitek 52 - JOY_BTN6

 

I must've been blind! :doh:

I'll try this out as soon as I get back to the sim rig.

 

Cheers mate!

[moggel]

Ok, I tried binding the POV1 hat to RDR DES with pinkie as MODIFIER but no luck.

I then removed the settings and tried the POV3 hat instead (as buttons) but still nothing.

 

The funny thing is if I bind keyboard to RDR DES in the Controls editor I do get the correct keys (already bound to RDR DES). But when I close Settings and get back to the pit nothing happens when I press POV3. Isn't the X52 supposed to act just like the keyboard when configured to?

 

Weird ...

Edited October 29, 2015 by moggel

[Blech]

Hi,

 

I hope your RDR DES are those

It should work ingame with all keyboard-commands

If not - I have no idea ( after deleting and repair )

 

Tested it with two different MODIFIERS + POV1

PINKIE

LShift

[moggel]

Hi,

 

I hope your RDR DES are those

It should work ingame with all keyboard-commands

If not - I have no idea ( after deleting and repair )

 

Tested it with two different MODIFIERS + POV1

PINKIE

LShift

 

Yup, those are the bindings I tried. Those and the "button" approach (through the Mad Catz editor) and so far I haven't been able to move the RDR DES a single millimeter using the X52 HOTAS.

 

I'll try a complete uninstall/reinstall of everything X52 and see how that goes. If not, I guess it's that final incentive I needed to motivate buying a Thrustmaster Warthog, finally.

 

So, keep your fingers crossed this doesn't work. :music_whistling: :joystick:

 

Thanks a lot for your effort to try and help. I really appreciated it!

[FubarBundy]

Mode switch

 

I know this is probably a silly question but have you made sure your stick is in the correct mode (1 to 3) ?

[moggel]

I know this is probably a silly question but have you made sure your stick is in the correct mode (1 to 3) ?

 

Yes, when programming the POVs as buttons my idea was to only support RDR DES in modes 2 and 3. When that failed I allowed all modes and finally I removed buttons programming and set the POV to "unprogrammed" to set it in the sim instead. None of these approaches have worked out.

[Tone71]

Another silly question but did you save your profile AND re-select it from the Saitek Task Tray icon? Profile changes don't update until you clear then select the profile again.

 

Edit: ignore me, I see from your first post that it works as expected in Notepad.

[moggel]

My latest experiment had me removing the profile all together. I then tried binding the stick's buttons directly in the sim and that works! It means I can't use the X52 MODE feature but I guess I can live with that.

[BaconSarnie]

I tried unsuccessfully to get into profiles with my X52, in the end I gave up and deicide just to bind in the game itself, it works perfectly and even redoing my entire A10 controls after a reinstall etc only takes me a few minutes.

Yeah you cant use modes, but to be honest with button 6 as a shift key I dont need them.

A10C is my most complex set up and I have every control I need mapped to the stick and throttle buttons etc quite nicely.

The rest of the planes are a minute or 2 to set up, I really enjoy doing them to be honest.