felix100 Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 I just installed the mirage module for DCS 2.0 and Im wondering if there is any training missions available? I cant find any. Im guessing because its a beta no missions are available yet. Is there any training/missions available for version 1.5?
Maico249th Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Felix, you have a good gripe and I like how you word it. First off, I like Matt Wagner's video on how to start and a general intro. I think I watched it about six times now. I hate to say this but we all need to RTFM... Read the Flipping Manual. I will do that this week. Over time there will be You Tube videos but don't rely on them. Read and you will know the real deal. Maico
felix100 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Posted December 26, 2015 Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of installing 1.5 instead incase training missions was only available for that version and not 2.0. It seems that is not the case then. I just find that its alot easier to learn flying a new plane when you can play interactive training missions, than just reading/watching a video. It can be difficult to remember it all and also involves alot of alt tabbing :) I guess i will have to learn it the hard way then!
MAD-MM Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 DCS world mods m2000 doc Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27
baltic_dragon Posted December 26, 2015 Posted December 26, 2015 I think that you will have to wait a little, it really only makes sense to provide training missions once all the systems are fully operational. So later down the beta or at full release. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Maico249th Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Felix, 1.5 is worth having. There are more missions in 1.5. The missions right now serve as training.
ac5 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Indeed... The Mirage is the ONLY DCS plane for which there are no interactive training missions...... Even the F-5 (WIP) has them! Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel 12-Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 MHz Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 4 TB Windows 11 Home - 64 CH Products Combatstick, Throttle and Pedals
baltic_dragon Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of installing 1.5 instead incase training missions was only available for that version and not 2.0. It seems that is not the case then. I just find that its alot easier to learn flying a new plane when you can play interactive training missions, than just reading/watching a video. It can be difficult to remember it all and also involves alot of alt tabbing :) I guess i will have to learn it the hard way then! The missions for 1.5 will be released first, and then once 2.0 is fully ready, ported to Nevada. Since updates are not equal between 1.5 and 2.0 I'd rather focus on one, wait for feedback and then port final training missions to 2.0 (or straight to 2.5). Indeed... The Mirage is the ONLY DCS plane for which there are no interactive training missions...... Even the F-5 (WIP) has them! Well, these are also WIP for M-2000C. In fact, mostly ready. The bottom line is - how can one release full set of training missions if parts of the module you are supposed to train are still in development? :) like INS for instance. I have to wait for the work to be finished by the devs before I can build training scenarios. No way around it, really :music_whistling: As things stand 7/10 missions are ready, the outstanding ones being INS / Navigation / INS bombardment. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
ac5 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Well, other planes are beta or even wip, and have a full set of missions. Why don't they release at least those 7 missions? S I said: The Mirage is the - ONLY - DCS plane for which there are no interactive training missions...... Mainboard: ASUS Maximus X Hero Intel Z 370 CPU: Intel 12-Core i7-8086K @ 4.0 GHz Memory: 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 MHz Graphics Card: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Monitor ASUS - Oled PG42UQ 41.5" @ 4K 1 SSD Samsung 860 PRO 256 GB 1 SSD Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 4 TB Windows 11 Home - 64 CH Products Combatstick, Throttle and Pedals
nomdeplume Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Not all betas are created equal! It should be pretty obvious to anyone that's got the F-5E that it was made available way later in its dev cycle than the M-2000C. The reason they don't release the training missions already is because a) people will get upset if they change how something is implemented after they've already done a training mission on it and b) people will get upset if a training mission breaks because of changes in the module and c) the person maintaining the training missions gets upset if they have to do significant rework because something changed in the module.
baltic_dragon Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Well, other planes are beta or even wip, and have a full set of missions. Why don't they release at least those 7 missions? S I said: The Mirage is the - ONLY - DCS plane for which there are no interactive training missions...... As I said, some of the systems are quite interconnected. It just does not make any sense to do the same thing twice whenever something changes in one of the systems, as nomdeplume has rightly pointed out. I don't know how much you know about creating missions, but it takes a lot of effort to properly build one, as not only triggers need to be set up, but also voiceovers, scripts etc etc. That is why it makes more sense to wait until the module comes out of early access. Not all betas are created equal! It should be pretty obvious to anyone that's got the F-5E that it was made available way later in its dev cycle than the M-2000C. The reason they don't release the training missions already is because a) people will get upset if they change how something is implemented after they've already done a training mission on it and b) people will get upset if a training mission breaks because of changes in the module and c) the person maintaining the training missions gets upset if they have to do significant rework because something changed in the module. All three points are valid (with, from my personal point of view, with an emphasis on C) and explain well why it is better to wait for a little while longer. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
jojo Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 Not all betas are created equal! It should be pretty obvious to anyone that's got the F-5E that it was made available way later in its dev cycle than the M-2000C. The reason they don't release the training missions already is because a) people will get upset if they change how something is implemented after they've already done a training mission on it and b) people will get upset if a training mission breaks because of changes in the module and c) the person maintaining the training missions gets upset if they have to do significant rework because something changed in the module. +1 People are already upset when Chuck's guide becomes obsolete, even if it's unofficial... And it isn't Chuck's fault either, the module being WIP. Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Charly_Owl Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 People are already upset when Chuck's guide becomes obsolete, even if it's unofficial... And it isn't Chuck's fault either, the module being WIP. People are always upset about everything anyway. :) Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
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