silentbob11 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 the campaign looks amazing and very detailed. I'm having a problem though getting through the navigation by coordinates thingy. for example in mission 3 - JTAC tells me to fly to 38 TLN 13723835 and I just don't know what to do with this info. While mastering the art of naving by bullseye offset I'd be happy if someone could help me get passed the coordinates fence. Thanx! SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi silentbob11, The MGRS coordinates are very important to get through some of the missions, these are used quite often. I am posting below the post by Yurgon from another thread where he explains the procedure: These are MGRS coords, and they will be used a lot during the campaign. They're based on UTM (or work in addition to/conjunction with UTM). Assuming you know how to punch in coords but never had to change the grid zone designator (in the Caucasus map either 37T or 38T), the grid zone designator needs to be entered on its own, using the left LSK, second from the bottom. After that, the rest of the coordinates are entered and then accepted with the left LSK, bottom-most. Example: 38T AB 1234 5678 Enter into CDU: 38T Hit the Line Select Key (LSK) left, second from the bottom Enter into CDU: AB12345678 Hit the LSK left, bottom-most Actually entering the coords into the CDU: More reading: UTM Coords Explained An Idiots Guide to understanding MGRS coordinates Also, in some of the mission you might be required to input the lat/long coordinates (so the longitude / latitude). The idea is the same (you just put the N for North and E for East before you enter the numbers in the scratchpad). If you have any additional questions - ask here! For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
silentbob11 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 Hi silentbob11, The MGRS coordinates are very important to get through some of the missions, these are used quite often. I am posting below the post by Yurgon from another thread where he explains the procedure: Also, in some of the mission you might be required to input the lat/long coordinates (so the longitude / latitude). The idea is the same (you just put the N for North and E for East before you enter the numbers in the scratchpad). If you have any additional questions - ask here! thanx! i'll look into it when I get back from work, and I'm sure I'll have many more questions... SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
silentbob11 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Posted December 28, 2015 zoom in/out on TAD how do you zoom in and out an the TAD screen? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 IIRC DMS up and down. For TAD I highly recommend this video: For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
kerlix Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I mentioned in another post concerning this campaign that it "forced" me to learn things that I had never really used before. Even something as basic as Bullseye Offsets. When I got my first MGRS coordinates, my brain basically stuttered for about 20 seconds. I ended up quitting the mission and actually watching that exact video on YT. It turns out that after you enter the MGRS coordinates more than twice, it becomes 2nd nature. I created a document in Word that basically has spaces for me to fill out into on 6 different flights (Name/Type), along with their frequencies. Then a section for 3 JTAC coordinates so I could right them down as I was receiving them. And finally a small section for weather, mission concept and ROE. I converted it to PDF (because I think it looks nicer. It might just be my imagination.) and then printed out a bunch of copies. Between that video and the sheets I made, it made everything a lot easier. And learning how to input MGRS and LAT/LON coordinates may seem daunting at first, but it actually isn't as bad as it seems. I think as you progress, you'll find this campaign makes you a much better A-10 pilot. In a lot of ways. Too numerous to mention here without going even further off topic. ASUS Sabertooth P67 :: Intel i5-2500 3.0 GHz :: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 :: 16 GB DDR3 RAM :: Crucial 240 GB SSD :: WD Black 2TB HD :: 50" Magnavox TV as monitor :: TrackIR 5 :: Saitek X52 :: Saitek Rudder Pedals
Yurgon Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 It turns out that after you enter the MGRS coordinates more than twice, it becomes 2nd nature. Yup, I think so, too! In most A-10C mission, I set up a waypoint I call TGT1 while I'm still on the ground and INS is aligning, and try to anticipate whether I'm more likely to get a target at grid zone 37T or 38T so that I can just punch in the coords as they come in (although I always write them down on paper in case I need them later on). That way I can have sensors on target pretty quickly. I especially perform this preparation in each new mission by Baltic Dragon, because when the briefing says that no contact with the enemy is expected... well, I have come to expect the unexpected. :thumbup: I think as you progress, you'll find this campaign makes you a much better A-10 pilot. In a lot of ways. Too numerous to mention here without going even further off topic. Absolutely, agreed! While flying it, I really learned a lot and also gained a lot of confidence on concepts and aspects I hadn't been that sure about before.
silentbob11 Posted December 30, 2015 Author Posted December 30, 2015 Yup, I think so, too! In most A-10C mission, I set up a waypoint I call TGT1 while I'm still on the ground and INS is aligning, and try to anticipate whether I'm more likely to get a target at grid zone 37T or 38T so that I can just punch in the coords as they come in (although I always write them down on paper in case I need them later on). That way I can have sensors on target pretty quickly. I especially perform this preparation in each new mission by Baltic Dragon, because when the briefing says that no contact with the enemy is expected... well, I have come to expect the unexpected. :thumbup: Absolutely, agreed! While flying it, I really learned a lot and also gained a lot of confidence on concepts and aspects I hadn't been that sure about before. Hi Yurgon, you mention "grid zones" in your post - what are they and how do you use them? and yes this campaign really forces you to dig deeper in this sim than ever before! thanx SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Yurgon Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 you mention "grid zones" in your post - what are they and how do you use them? This map should show it very easily: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system#/media/File:Utm-zones.jpg These are the grid zones in the Universal Transverse Mercator coordinate system (which the Military Grid Reference System is based on). A grid zone identifier or designator (GZD) could be something like 31U (which is where I'm located ;)). The Georgia/Caucasus map lies on the edge of two GZD: 37T and 38T. Some of the missions in TEW play in 37T, some play in 38T. Unless the GZD is absolutely unambiguous, it should always be provided as part of the MGRS coordinates. (The in-game JTAC omits this GZD, unfortunately). So a complete set of MGRS coordinates with 100 meter precision, including GZD, could be something like: 38T MM 123 987 More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_grid_reference_system When it comes to waypoint creation in the A-10C using the CDU, it is important to know that the GZD goes on its own, separate line (left, second from the bottom), and the rest of the MGRS coords go on another line (left, bottom-most). I hope that clears things up a bit. :thumbup:
silentbob11 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 OK still on mission 3: managed to punch in the coordinates (thanks Yurgon!) get to the outpost and blast the enemy away - than I wanted to head for the downed pilot - I was given bulls: 38 to 32 so I punched it as: 038032 on the CDU offset page. headed to that waypoint but found nothing there... what have I done wrong? and - how to I changed radio frequency so I can talk to UZI? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Hey, With offset it is a bit more complicated, check the video below: As for radio, you have to use the knobs to tune the FM radio (the lowest one) to correct frequency, make sure it is in manual mode and in transmit / receive (check manual p. 143). When you hear Uzi press FM radio transmit switch and use F10 menu to contact him. This procedure will be used a lot later on so it is good to master it now. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
silentbob11 Posted January 2, 2016 Author Posted January 2, 2016 Hey, With offset it is a bit more complicated, check the video below: As for radio, you have to use the knobs to tune the FM radio (the lowest one) to correct frequency, make sure it is in manual mode and in transmit / receive (check manual p. 143). When you hear Uzi press FM radio transmit switch and use F10 menu to contact him. This procedure will be used a lot later on so it is good to master it now. Hi baltic Dragon, well I know how to punch Bullseye into the CDU, but as I said - following the bulls I was given (38,32 - so I entred 038032 in the CDU) and I founded no downed pilot at the spot. so what was I doing wrong :( SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Hm, IIRC it should be 03832... But once you can hear Uzi (and if you are high you can hear him from quite far away) he can give you his lat/long position if you ask him. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Dazgra Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 silentbob - Uzi is not exactly at those coordinates, he is down in the valley in the flat part a short distance away. It is a downed Mi-8
silentbob11 Posted January 2, 2016 Author Posted January 2, 2016 Hm, IIRC it should be 03832... But once you can hear Uzi (and if you are high you can hear him from quite far away) he can give you his lat/long position if you ask him. oh is it so? if you're correct i was way off... can someone concur? is 38,32 should be dialed in the CDU as 038032 or 03832? SB CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Honestly, I don't remember - maybe you are right. Can't check it, as I am on holidays till Wednesday away from my PC. I know for sure that the coordinates are correct and that Uzi is nearby. You can always create Bulls waypoint using your TAD. Also remember to be high enough, the higher you are the lower the chance that Uzi will be masked and radio transmission will be heard from greater distance. For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Yurgon Posted January 2, 2016 Posted January 2, 2016 Pretty sure it must be entered as 038032 - both the bearing and the distance need to be entered as three digits. :thumbup:
silentbob11 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Posted January 14, 2016 marking tgts So, having moved on to "The Falcons and the Hawgs" mission I am directed to three T-55 tanks at bulls 044067 and asked to mark them. I have arrived to the Bulls location but found nothing there. where those tanks at? didn' t find them at all. so I've descided to mark the bullsye location and just transmit the markpoints to the Falcons. no joy here - the comms menue (\ - f10) only offers me to tell them the bullseye (pressing F1) but pressing F1 doesn't says anything. what am I doing wrong now? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
Yurgon Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 So, having moved on to "The Falcons and the Hawgs" mission I am directed to three T-55 tanks at bulls 044067 and asked to mark them. I have arrived to the Bulls location but found nothing there. where those tanks at? The tanks are located... down near the river, I think on the southern river bank (the side you approach from). I think the bullseye coords are actually pretty spot-on, but it's easier to spot the targets if you follow the valley to the east or west and gain a little distance. Not far from the tanks you should also spot some bunkers. If you find the bunkers first, just look down to the river and the tanks should be right there. As always, in WHOT or BHOT you may achieve better results if you tweak the contrast settings a bit. the comms menue (\ - f10) only offers me to tell them the bullseye (pressing F1) but pressing F1 doesn't says anything. what am I doing wrong now? Weird. I don't think the SPI is available to mission creators, so the mission can't really tell if you've actually seen the target or not - I think it just asks you to be honest about it. Last time I flew it, I had no problems calling in the F-16s (but I had the targets in my TGP at the time, so I'm not sure if Baltic Dragon figured out a way to actually know whether we've spotted them :music_whistling:).
silentbob11 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 OK than yurgon can you at least tell me where to look for them? cause they sure are not exactly on the bulls... :helpsmilie: are they on the road? near a factory...? where?:huh: SB CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
silentbob11 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Just did a double check on that mission just to be sure: put the TGP right on the new waypoint I made with the bullseye I received from overlord. unless I am doing something wrong with the CDU OFFSET (overlord call is "044 for 67" so I dialed in 044067) there are NO TANKS ON THIS POINT. What gives? :cry: SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) There are :) but I will give you the UTM later on too! Edit: to be able to call the F-16syou first need to get into the target location, and you will get the message that you can do so. So unless you get there, you can't call the F-16s. Edited January 15, 2016 by baltic_dragon For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Yurgon Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Just did a double check on that mission just to be sure: put the TGP right on the new waypoint I made with the bullseye I received from overlord. unless I am doing something wrong with the CDU OFFSET (overlord call is "044 for 67" so I dialed in 044067) there are NO TANKS ON THIS POINT. What gives? :cry: Should look somewhat like in these screenshots. I've applied the terrain noise mini-mod there, that makes it a little easier to spot them. I think I'll soon check out Bartheks Ground textures mod, according to many reports (including from Baltic Dragon), that should also make the TGP much more efficient. :thumbup: But rest assured, the tanks are at Bulls 044 for 67 (unless some kind of digital gremlin moved them in your version of the mission :D).
silentbob11 Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Hmmm... Yurgon I've looked into your screenshots and... it doesn't look like my bulls location. 044067 for me has a lot of buildings and a bridge nearby yours look quite empty and has two bunkers close to them. something I"m doing is wrong... SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10
baltic_dragon Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 See below Check the following coordinates: 38T LN 5964 2880 For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
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