Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Hi all I have managed to produce the parts in prototyped nylon for Tazintosh's slew mod. I have added a photo to show you what I have. There is a picture of parts from prototyper. As you can see I have a few spares drop me a line if you want one. Sorry for poor quality as I have used my phone camera and parts are small. Any comments please don't hesitate. Many thanks James [ATTACH]132640[/ATTACH] Edited January 11, 2016 by Jateu
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 Tazintosh's website for slew mod. http://tazintosh.com/en/thrustmaster-hotas-warthog/ Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 1
KEULE Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Hi all I have managed to produce the parts in prototyped nylon for Tazintosh's slew mod. I have added photos to show you what I have. There is a picture of parts from prototyper. As you can see I have a few spares drop me a line if you want one. Sorry for poor quality as I have used my phone camera and parts are small. Any comments please don't hesitate. Many thanks James [ATTACH]132640[/ATTACH] They are looking very good. Have you modified your Throttle so far? It is very generous to share some of your spares. How much do you want for one? If I would like to fly SFM I could get it for free at World of Warplanes. You only need 2 of the following 3: Altitude - Speed - Skill
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 I haven't yet modified throttle but I am confident in the mod it's self. And I'm mechanically minded so should be a breeze. I'm waiting for the parts to finish dying to black anyway. To be honest I haven't actually thought of a cost. James Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 If you check out the link to Taz's mod page. There is a multitude of pictures advice and instruction. The mod is sound as far as I can see. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 I take not credit for the time and effort Taz has put into this slew mod. I have attached a few images if the 3d designs. James Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 Here is my current effort in dying prototyped parts in black. James Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
hansangb Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Jateu, I ordered mine from staples.com using resin. And it came back in black/resin. Just an FYI for anyone else thinking of doing it. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Yes I looked into resin and in the UK not many company's do resin because of the cost. Resin is very brittle where as nylon is more flexible and less prone to warping. What staples did you order it from so all can check it out. Are they based in the uk? The detail is pretty close with nylon. The best resolution you can get with nylon is 100 microns, but with resin 16 micron so has much higher resolution but much more prone to brittleness. However that said the actual feel of slew control on the finger I can't tell the difference and with a gloved hand I don't think you can tell the difference at all. I'm ultimately going to get this mod made into aluminium and then anodised in black. But that will cost as much as I spent in the hotas in the first place. This mod looks good and the instructions on the website are comprehensive to say the least. Thank you Taz for the hard work and being so kind to share it with us all. I look forward to adding this mod to my throttle. Any questions everyone just ask and all are welcome to pm me. James Edited January 11, 2016 by Jateu
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Just confirmed with Hans that staples only offer resin prototyping in the US. Staples prototyping is not available in UK. Edited January 11, 2016 by Jateu
Jateu Posted January 11, 2016 Author Posted January 11, 2016 Apologies it's late to add to this topic but I'm based in the UK.
wasyl00 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Apologies it's late to add to this topic but I'm based in the UK. I did mine in black resin 25 micron. Really cheap, just use one of your local www.3dhubs.com. It's really strong and look decent. Some pics cheers Edited January 12, 2016 by wasyl00 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 10 Pro x64, Asus PG279Q, i7-6700K, Nvidia GTX1080TI, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, TM Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro Rudder Pedals, TIR5+Trackclip
Lobinjaevel Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 ...I'm ultimately going to get this mod made into aluminium... IIRC, a problem with the mod is that even the weight of the Slew affect the slew sensor, since it's digital and force sensitive. And since the slew contact area gets bigger, it's also possible that you're pushing it over time since it registers the slightest movements. The problem is not with mod it self, but the with the sensor on the thottle. So sadly I don't think that aluminium is going to work, since the slew will sense a constant down pressure that deadzone might not remove with nice results.
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 I did mine in black resin 25 micron. Really cheap, just use one of your local www.3dhubs.com. It's really strong and look decent. Some pics cheers Wasyl00 is that company I the UK? James
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 IIRC, a problem with the mod is that even the weight of the Slew affect the slew sensor, since it's digital and force sensitive. And since the slew contact area gets bigger, it's also possible that you're pushing it over time since it registers the slightest movements. The problem is not with mod it self, but the with the sensor on the thottle. So sadly I don't think that aluminium is going to work, since the slew will sense a constant down pressure that deadzone might not remove with nice results. Lobin thank you for your comments. What would be as light as plastic and as strong as metal. I'm curious as to why thrustmaster didn't bother with the slew control in the first place. Because targeting when your in the thick of the is rediculously hard when you have a tiny nub to target with. And let's be honest it's not like thrustmaster bother to put any high quality parts into the throttle in the first place! James
wasyl00 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Wasyl00 is that company I the UK? James Yes UK, but I would call them printing company. It's more like middle man site, connecting you with local printing businesses or even small private 3d printer owners who are willing to help you with your projects. All payments are done through the site so it's pretty safe. The printing guy I found was 5 minutes’ walk from the place I work, so super convenient. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 10 Pro x64, Asus PG279Q, i7-6700K, Nvidia GTX1080TI, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, TM Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro Rudder Pedals, TIR5+Trackclip
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Yes UK, but I would call them printing company. It's more like middle man site, connecting you with local printing businesses or even small private 3d printer owners who are willing to help you with your projects. All payments are done through the site so it's pretty safe. The printing guy I found was 5 minutes’ walk from the place I work, so super convenient. Thank you for the update. Have you managed to get about the brittleness? How much were they to produce? James
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 If there is anyone out there to share the love and tell us how you got on or how you produced mod. James
wasyl00 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Thank you for the update. Have you managed to get about the brittleness? How much were they to produce? James You shouldn't experience any brittleness, at least my prints were very strong. I had to file one piece due to tight fit and was positively surprised with how strong the resin is. My small advice before you go anodised aluminum. Do some testing with the 3d printed parts first. They will cost you maybe £10 (I paid £16 for the set of two incase I mess up one). The reason is that you may not be happy with the outcome. I had to revert to original nipple. See my small feedback here and here Edited January 12, 2016 by wasyl00 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 10 Pro x64, Asus PG279Q, i7-6700K, Nvidia GTX1080TI, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD, TM Warthog, Saitek Combat Pro Rudder Pedals, TIR5+Trackclip
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 I see what you mean. Surely that would be the same problem for the real A10 pilots? I will look into putting a foam ring/doughnut behind the slew control when I install it or even reduce the diameter to stop catching it. Also has anyone else out there noticed the switches on the hotas are flimsy and cheap! The toggles are not even pinned !
Jateu Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Here's one for everyone. What is the weight of your resin prototypes? I'm pretty sure the nylon will be a fraction of the weight. But would be interesting to find out the difference. See if this could be the reason for so many like Wasyl00 to have centering issues with this mod? James
hansangb Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I'll try to measure it when I get back home. But it's very light. To be honest, I don't know how I'm going to measure it. I wish I had one of those postage meters! :) hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Jateu Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Alot of other post are talking about slew issues being off center etc. Because of the weight of this mod. So I was curious to see what it's weight was in comparison to my nylon part. If nylon is half the weight then maybe that would be better than resin for this mod. James
Jateu Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 If anyone in the UK wants one of these pm me I have a few left. James
Jateu Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Update for everyone. I have rcently been looking further into this mod. It looks like if the slew pad is too heavy then it gives unwanted input to tgp etc. I have been lucky enough for Hans to send me one of his black resin versions of this mod. Thank you again Hans. The resin version of mod weighs 1.5g and my nylon version weighs 1g. Now this dosen't sound alot of weight but with extended angles etc the fact that the resin version is 0.5g heavier could indeed make the slew input unwanted movement. I will be mod my hotas with the resin and nylon version so I will make sure I will update you all with results. James
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