PK-3 Gun Pods Effectiveness

[Focha]

Hi all,

 

Does anyone also encounters the PK-3 lacking effectiveness against infantry and soft targets?

 

I know it's a 7.62 weapon but last night I was attacking an infantry group with it and I've made 5 passes by the book with a 20º dive and I never got an infantry unit... And I tried with a fuel truck too, and nothing happened.

 

Do you guys experience the same?

 

Probably it's normal since the weapons caliber. I switched to the 23 mm barrel, Gsh-23, and they were devastated. :joystick:

 

So, what is the good use of the PK-3 pods?

 

Regards

[doodenkoff]

Well, the Gsh-23 fires HE rounds; which tend to improve damage. It isn't because it's simply larger. The .30 caliber round from the pods has to rely on direct hits to soft targets to cause damage. So unless you can pack a lot of infantry into a very small area, you won't get much damage.

 

I just thought of trying the pod guns against a small boat. I would presume they are wooden and relatively flimsy compared to any land vehicle.

[1.JaVA_Platypus]

The PK3 gunpods are not of much use against land-targets. I don't know why. I tried various truck targets as well. Nothing appearant happened. Probably because of the aforemented reasons. But try a bit of AA, I shot down airplanes with it.

 

Probably also the reason they aren't used very often in real-life? I can't seem to find any pictures of real-life L-39's with the PK3 gunpod.

[King_Hrothgar]

If you check the log you will notice it takes 4-5 hits with them to kill a single infantryman. And since they are traditional 7.62mm rounds, they have to score a direct hit to count at all. It should probably be changed to 1 hit takes down an infantryman. Not sure why it's set to so many. I haven't had any issues against trucks.

[Enduro14]

Yes that is very inaccurate and hope it changes throughout all of Dcs world. The damage modelling needs some work dont feel bad a mk82 hits 10 to 20 meters away from infantry and doesnt kill them with stock settings. Needs a fix bad, try this and maybe ask the Modder if they can touch up the guns also. Im very familiar with how effective a single 7.62 round can be to a single infantry man. Should not be 5 to 6 direct hits

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=161371

 

But that being said most who are killed by a a burst of rounds generally get hit by more than one round so guess it could go both ways in this instance.

Edited March 6, 2016 by Enduro14

[Fri13]

The inaccuracy is not a problem, it is better have a spread than firing all 7.62 to small area accurately, as you are not anyways aiming to individual infantry, as you shouldn't even be able see one if such isn't running or against some very clear background like runway.

 

And 7.62 would rip vehicles quickly. Only APC with stronger armor could withstand some of the hits, but firing even longer bursts to some IVF like M2 Bradley or M113 would start doing some damage to optics, radios etc.

 

If the target would be a truck or any other unarmored vehicle, you would very likely just punch if full of holes, kill infantry on it, shut down the engine and maybe (maybe) cause an fire.

 

If we ever get the moral system implemented to DCS ground units, then these gunpods will come handy. As you could give effective support against infantry and even against lightly armored vehicles.

 

But now it is more like a hollywood effect at best (or worst?).

 

As I would as well change the amount of smoke and ricochettes you get by firing those at ground.

[ESAc_matador]

For moral effects there Wass the suppression fire script.

[Hook47]

I can effectively kill soft vehicles with the PK-3 pods, they take about the same amount of hits as the M-134 on the Huey. As for infantry, yes I agree they take too many hits. I made a mod here on the forums which adds the 23-250 23mm gun pods to the L-39ZA, which is not unrealistic, if you are interested. What I like about the PK-3 pods is lots of ammo!

[Stratos]

For moral effects there Wass the suppression fire script.

 

What is that? Can you please elaborate.

[Nirvi]

What is that? Can you please elaborate.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=107635

 

If you fire close to enemy units, they are suppressed and wont fire back.