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25000 jobs + 7000 jobs might be gone. Ford just announced 6000 jobs cuts. And that is on top of 30000 job cuts up to year 2009. And that is on top of 21% reduction in car production for this year.

 

Well, the world is more competitive. Before the fall of communism, the west had an advantage in market economy. Well, nowadays, everybody has market economy. Unless, we in USA become use to it, we will start loosing markets, because competition is working hard on acquiring new markets.

 

20 years ago (or so), the biggest company in USA was GM, average salary $40000, full medical coverage and so on. Today, the biggest company in the USA is Wal Mart, average salary $20000, no medical (correct me if I am mistaken).

 

I just would not like to be one of the Boing workers laid out ...

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Well, the world is more competitive. Before the fall of communism, the west had an advantage in market economy. Well, nowadays, everybody has market economy. Unless, we in USA become use to it, we will start loosing markets, because competition is working hard on acquiring new markets.

 

20 years ago (or so), the biggest company in USA was GM, average salary $40000, full medical coverage and so on. Today, the biggest company in the USA is Wal Mart, average salary $20000, no medical (correct me if I am mistaken).

 

I just would not like to be one of the Boing workers laid out ...

 

20 years ago the "global market" or just "the market" included only Western Europe, North America, Australia, and some parts of Asia (Japan, HK, and some others)

Now the global market includes the whole planet (with Eastern Europe, Russia, China, India, and to some extent South America and Africa), with many more competitors and many more resources to exploit (including "human" resources, could spell also "slaves").

3 more billions of people now are ready to produce things at much lower prices that what can be done in the old capitalist countries. Outsourcing and delocalization are the key-words, so there's nothing strange in that "western" factories and businesses close....

Guest IguanaKing
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It looks to me like people here need to start taking pride in their work again. The years before the global economy, I think, made people soft. It fostered a mentality among some that they were OWED a living, with those same workers having no understanding of what kept their employer in business...productivity and quality. Ford Motor Company? Well...what can I say? Build a quality product and people will buy it. But years of garbage vehicles and the mistrust it creates will take decades to reverse. The same can be said of GM. Chrysler seems to be the only US car manufacturer that caught on early enough. Those Boeing workers though, they shouldn't have too much to worry about. The next big thing is on the horizon and those guys have undeniable skills. You can't pay a 14 year old in a thrid-world country $0.30 per hour to build an airplane that'll pass FAA and JAA inspection...it just isn't possible.

 

My fellow Americans...you are not owed a living, so do all you can to keep yourselves competitive. Quality and pride in workmanship is the only way to go my brothas...that 8-to-5, punch the clock mentality won't fly anymore...you need to do it better than the other guy if you want more money than him, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. :D

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That reminds me of some boots I bought at the local Wally World. 40 bucks for a pair of shoes made in CHINA!!! And they lasted all of 2 weeks. Needless to say, I HAVE to shop at the Kay Mart again and pay double for stuff made in Mexico instead. What happened to made in the USA?

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25000 jobs + 7000

 

so here's a primary school math question: how many a380 flights would it take to transport 25000+7000 people :megalol:

Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.

Guest IguanaKing
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Better yet...how old is the pilot? :thumbup:

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That reminds me of some boots I bought at the local Wally World. 40 bucks for a pair of shoes made in CHINA!!! And they lasted all of 2 weeks. Needless to say, I HAVE to shop at the Kay Mart again and pay double for stuff made in Mexico instead. What happened to made in the USA?

Don't you know that 80% of all footware is made in China, that is unless you want to pay over $200.00.. and then you'll find that at this price your going to most likely find that you'll be getting an Itailian made product.

 

Very little is actually being produced here in the USA anymore. This country is now a service based economy, and its eroding rapidly. The borders are wide open and its being overrun by illegal unskilled workers who are takeing away the jobs that skilled Americans used to fill (who by the way are mostly in the middle east fighting the war), so there's no pride or ownership in anything and the US has lost its competitivness..

We need a real plan if were going to get out of this one.. Enough said on this subject...

 

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Oh the irony, Boxer and Frankenstien hollering to save the program, what next?:doh:

 

Red Wings still made in the good ole USA, superior quality shoe, reasonable price. From good old Red Wing Minnesota, not avaliable in Chinese sizes. :thumbup:

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