Realistic Gun Ammo Mod

[Rlaxoxo]

I've been playing with P-51's and Mirages ammo lately cus they don't seam to be correctly represented in DCS

More info and Download link can be found here:

 

Long story short the Mirage 30mm DEFA554 cannons use DEFA552_30 shells which are defined as AP shells with 0 HE element inside of them meaning they sometimes hit and do little to no damage if at all ...

 

To compare the Su-27's cannon has 73 grams of HE element inside of the shell and does huge damage to Air to Air target because it only uses HE shells

After looking at bunch of DEFA ammo documentation files there are couple of rounds that mirage uses in A-A combat but primarly they use HEI rounds which contain 50 grams of HE element in them.

I've modeled that in this mod by creating this new shell and loading it into the cannons I've also created API shell for P-51 and made a new ammo belt with this mod

Check it out and see what you think, I've tried to get it as realistic as possible from watching old youtube Gun camera films ...

 

Anyways enjoy

 

Download link -> (DCS World Realistic Gun Mod)

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Data/DCS%20World/_Mods

Edited May 7, 2016 by Rlaxoxo

[Darkbrotherhood7]

Thanks!

[ESAc_matador]

 

Long story short the Mirage 30mm DEFA554 cannons use DEFA552_30 shells which are defined as AP shells with 0 HE element inside of them meaning they sometimes hit and do little to no damage if at all

 

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Where did you get that information. There are API, HE, HEI, MP... Most of them with and without tracers.

 

AA ammunition today it's used API a lot, never heard of just AP for A to A

[Rlaxoxo]

Where did you get that information. There are API, HE, HEI, MP... Most of them with and without tracers.

 

AA ammunition today it's used API a lot, never heard of just AP for A to A

 

1. Search for "DEFA"

[ame]http://cnqzu.com/library/Anarchy%20Folder/Ammunition/Jane's%20Ammunition%20Handbook.pdf[/ame]

 

2. Page 11

[ame]https://sin.thecthulhu.com/library/weapons/firearms/training/janes_ammunition_handbook_2008-2009.pdf[/ame]

 

 

 

Discussed in more detail here

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166188

 

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Might have actually misunderstood your question ...

If you're asking me from where did I find out that currently in DCS Mirage uses only AP rounds well then I looked into the code

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2770099&postcount=22

 

It's declared as an AP shell and has no Explosive element inside what so ever

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rlaxoxo

[LevelPulse]

Hey,

 

I was in the process of currently making a mod for the F-86F where i installed the 20mm guns on four of the six gun ports.

 

Since you're already working on an ammo mod, do you think it would be possible for you to do this, give the 20mm cannons an option in the type of ammunition and only fire from 4 of the six guns?

 

Thanks, Alex.

[Rlaxoxo]

Hey,

 

I was in the process of currently making a mod for the F-86F where i installed the 20mm guns on four of the six gun ports.

 

Since you're already working on an ammo mod, do you think it would be possible for you to do this, give the 20mm cannons an option in the type of ammunition and only fire from 4 of the six guns?

 

Thanks, Alex.

 

Yup I can see that happening

 

It's gonna take some work to sync up some files and all but I don't see why not but I'm kinda busy today and this week so I doubht i'll have time to do it

 

But will see

[LevelPulse]

Yup I can see that happening

 

It's gonna take some work to sync up some files and all but I don't see why not but I'm kinda busy today and this week so I doubht i'll have time to do it

 

But will see

 

Yah looking forward to it, thanks for all the hard work you put into these mods ;)

[Rlaxoxo]

Yah looking forward to it, thanks for all the hard work you put into these mods ;)

 

You know this mod also helps Sabre a bit because it uses the same ammo the P-51 has but it still doesn't use the API just uses AP and API-T

 

Tho I slightly enhanced API-T ammo so it should still boost it's damage a bit try it out

 

Sabre uses x2 AP 4x API-T in it's own ammo belt

[BravoFoxTrt]

Wow, This is an awesome Mod, Thank you for all your work and research, I really appreciate what you did for us. <S>:thumbup:

[Reflected]

A much needed mod, thanks. I reckon it's impossible to fly online with this, correct? ED would really need to fix the DM of .50 cals

[Rlaxoxo]

A much needed mod, thanks. I reckon it's impossible to fly online with this, correct? ED would really need to fix the DM of .50 cals

 

You can use it in multiplayer just fine as long as they're not protected by a integrity check

[ESAc_matador]

1. Search for "DEFA"

http://cnqzu.com/library/Anarchy%20Folder/Ammunition/Jane's%20Ammunition%20Handbook.pdf

 

2. Page 11

https://sin.thecthulhu.com/library/weapons/firearms/training/janes_ammunition_handbook_2008-2009.pdf

 

 

 

Discussed in more detail here

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166188

 

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Might have actually misunderstood your question ...

If you're asking me from where did I find out that currently in DCS Mirage uses only AP rounds well then I looked into the code

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2770099&postcount=22

 

It's declared as an AP shell and has no Explosive element inside what so ever

 

Ops, my fault. I though you were talking about real Mirage, not DCS!!

[PilotRyan]

Hey,

 

I was in the process of currently making a mod for the F-86F where i installed the 20mm guns on four of the six gun ports...

 

Sorry to revive an old thread but the F-5's M39s have really sparked my interest in the GUNVAL test Sabres. By any chance was this mod finished and released to the public yet?

 

Ryan