canopy glass scratching for real?

[fitness88]

In real world would a fighter plane be allowed to have scratches all over its canopy glass? Considering how hard it is to see other planes at a distance I would think a clean and blemish free canopy glass would be the norm.

 

Thank you.

[Svend_Dellepude]

There has been a loooong discussion about ths before, try to dig around.

[fitness88]

There has been a loooong discussion about ths before, try to dig around.

 

Svend_Dellepude, in the DCS options there is a lens option, what exactly does it do, I've used it but don't see much impact?

[Svend_Dellepude]

Never used it either but my guess is that it will make a lens flare effect when looking towards the sun.

[pr1malr8ge]

Here is the thing, while scratches do occur and I'm sure that if it is a distraction to the pilot it will be dealt with. How ever you need to keep in mind that when someone looks out a window their eye is focusing way past where the glass is and in doing so essentially becomes invisible. In the game since you're eye is focusing on the screen[display] and cannot focus past the canopy per se it makes it appear worse then what it would be in real life.

[Kayos]

Here is the thing, while scratches do occur and I'm sure that if it is a distraction to the pilot it will be dealt with. How ever you need to keep in mind that when someone looks out a window their eye is focusing way past where the glass is and in doing so essentially becomes invisible. In the game since you're eye is focusing on the screen[display] and cannot focus past the canopy per se it makes it appear worse then what it would be in real life.

 

Does it make it better with CV1 then?

[VIKBELL]

There are several thing that cause to windscreen or canopy... There is crazing:When crazing occurs, each speck of damage to the exterior surface scatters the light waves in all directions, making it increasingly difficult to see through the windscreen.

 

Scratches, pits, chips and crazing create stress risers in the surface of the windshield, leading to the growth and propagation of the damage through the window material. The damage can reach a point at which it exceeds the aircraft manufacturer’s limit and the window will need to be replaced.

 

 

Certain chemical damage and of course lighting and bird strikes...

[mvsgas]

Some related links

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=139585

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=48711

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=83194

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=132285

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=140004

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=158203

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=71624

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=20945

[mvsgas]

In real world would a fighter plane be allowed to have scratches all over its canopy glass? Considering how hard it is to see other planes at a distance I would think a clean and blemish free canopy glass would be the norm.

 

Thank you.

 

It may look like scratches, but likely is just crazing. Depending where the scratches or crazing or other damage may be it could be allowed, depending on the aircraft. You would not only have crazing or scratches, you will also have bugs and pilots smudges as they like to put their hands on the cockpit. They are marks where their helmet hit the canopy. Mechanics try to clean this but some time is hard and other time the only way to remove it is by polishing the canopy. Some aircraft have coatings (e.i. F-117) so what you could do to clean it was limited.

 

example of a brand new canopy being installed

http://media.defense.gov/2012/Feb/21/2000177023/-1/-1/0/120219-F-QF982-025.JPG

 

 

canopy with angle sun light to see normal crazing

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=862674

http://media.defense.gov/2016/Feb/05/2001340626/-1/-1/0/160201-F-EB935-005.JPG

 

other examples

http://media.defense.gov/2015/Dec/09/2001323708/-1/-1/0/151130-F-CX842-107.JPG

http://archive.defense.gov/dodcmsshare/newsphoto/2008-07/hires_080603-F-5957S-169.jpg

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=862664&size=lg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E_s4k8uMNrA/T-4vBmZe1rI/AAAAAAAAEGg/KCsyQUhrLoY/s1600/f16_falcon_kokpit.jpg

Edited May 14, 2016 by mvsgas

[fitness88]

Thanks all for the info also for the great links.

[Wolverine88]

if my canopy ever looked anything like that, with that much 'crazing' I'd have it changed out the next phase dock that it went to...or directly as soon as a canopy showed up in supply. Especially if it looked THAT bad! The other thing that would happen would be a 'de-lamination' where the layers in the plastic would get air in between them...also a 'no bueno' by the Tech-data.

[pr1malr8ge]

^ jets generaly are not assigned to 1 pilot. Therefor all a pilot can do is note it on his sign off[squak] sheet when he returns the plane or he can just refuse to fly it and either get in another plane or not fly or be told to fly it regardless by his CO