D4n Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) In the LUA file it says Mach_max = 2.2, but sources on the internet reveal that missile top speed was around mach 2.8. Please adjust. Also what does the "H_min_t" stand for? Maximum time to reach max. altitude? Edited August 2, 2016 by DanielNL DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
shagrat Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Other sources "on the internet" vary from 1.75, over 2.0 to 2.8 Mach in one article?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub GRAU designation | Kub | Kub-M1 | Kub-M3 | Kub-M4 (Buk-M1) Introduced | 1967 | 1973 | 1976 | 1978 Missile speed (Mach) | 1.75 | 1.75 | 2 | 2 and in the Overview it says: Speed Mach 2.8 ...internet rarely qualifies as a reliable source, when it comes to military specifications. :smilewink: Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
D4n Posted August 4, 2016 Author Posted August 4, 2016 Just think about it. It is RAMJET technology, so a great deal ABOVE Mach 2.2. (And the DCS Kub is the latest version obviously) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
GGTharos Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Just think about it. It is RAMJET technology, so a great deal ABOVE Mach 2.2. (And the DCS Kub is the latest version obviously) It's just ramjet technology. It's neither the first nor the last ramjet powered weapon, and there have been other ramjet powered missiles which cruised at approximately that speed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
D4n Posted August 4, 2016 Author Posted August 4, 2016 "cruised" for how many seconds though? The Kub in DCS only seems to be cruising for several seconds, not as long as a ramjet (which is a very fuel saving propulsion method) would really cruise. What is that value set to in missiles Lua? After all the 600kg missile has a huge amount of fuel. DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
FSKRipper Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) but sources on the internet reveal that missile top speed was around mach 2.8. Please adjust. A simple question, do you own any flight performance charts, official military documents, flight test recordings or maybe a reliable independent source of information backing your demand? If yes, we will be happy and hungry to study them. If not, you are simply bitching around supported by some guesses of the "free for all" encyclopedia Edited August 4, 2016 by FSKRipper i9 9900K @ 5,0GHz | 1080GTX | 32GB RAM | 256GB, 512GB & 1TB Samsung SSDs | TIR5 w/ Track Clip | Virpil T-50 Stick with extension + Warthog Throttle | MFG Crosswind pedals | Gametrix 908 Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 It probably doesn't matter how many seconds it cruises. What matters is real life performance, not some random numbers from the internet. You can start learning about ramjets in practice here: http://www.okieboat.com/Ramjet%20history.html "cruised" for how many seconds though? The Kub in DCS only seems to be cruising for several seconds, not as long as a ramjet (which is a very fuel saving propulsion method) would really cruise. What is that value set to in missiles Lua? After all the 600kg missile has a huge amount of fuel. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
shagrat Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Maybe DCS simply models the 1978 version that according to “sources on the internet“ reaches a speed of 2 Mach ? So, actually 2.2 Mach is a bit overpowered? ;) Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
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