Maximus_G Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 As it has been mentioned on this forum, there's a very detailed model of Su-27 made by sds: Here and there. This model can be bought at digimation.com for 1,700 USD. I am very curious if we - community - can really gather that much money. So - if you're ready do spend some cash on it - please leave a message here. For example - i would spend 50$ on it.
knellknell Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 LoooooooooooooL This models will not complied with ED request about modelisation. Strikemax have make a very lovelly one for free Not tired to see always the same aircraft ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Disso Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Have you not seen this thread? http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=18484 SU-30MKI F/A-18F ...Beauty, grace, lethality.
Alfa Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 Maximus_G, Yes that model is very impressive, but... a). it is some 260.000 polygons, which is quite excessive for Lock-on purposes and about five times the limit ED is operating with(~ 50.000). b). $1695,00 is excessive too - in my opinion the general price level Digimation.com is operating with is just way over the top. You can find very nice Su-27 models elsewhere, which are both much cheaper and much closer to an acceptable polygon count. c). StrikeMax is already working on the Su-27, and I think he is fully up to the job of creating a super model for the Lock-on community :) . d). I also believe ED's own artists are working on a new Su-27 model - ok we don't know when we can expect to see that, but with StrikeMax's project and another future one from ED, I don't think we really need more efforts directed towards the Su-27......there are many other aircraft in Lock-on for which a new model is equally desirable. Just my 2 cents worth :) . Cheers, - JJ. As it has been mentioned on this forum, there's a very detailed model of Su-27 made by sds: Here and there. This model can be bought at digimation.com for 1,700 USD. I am very curious if we - community - can really gather that much money. So - if you're ready do spend some cash on it - please leave a message here. For example - i would spend 50$ on it. JJ
Pilotasso Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 We need another Su-30/33 Model. Dunno why ppl duplicate efforts on the 27 when these are obviously the next closest thing. .
ALDEGA Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 50$ for LOBS or a fancy Su-27 model ... ;)
Maximus_G Posted September 21, 2006 Author Posted September 21, 2006 Have you not seen this thread? http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=18484 Of course i've seen it. StrikeMax's model is far from being complete, and very far from reaching a comparable to sds's model's level of detail. 260 000 polys overmodelling is not such a problem imho, since it's so much easier to simplify every 25 lines into 5, then actually modelling those 5 lines. The price at Digimation is overkill for sure, but we always could contact sds personally. Authors get only 25 percent of the sum being paid for models sold at Digimation. ED's modellers are actually working on the model, but there is so much work, they even can't say when it could be finished. Concerning Su-33, imho it would be better not to model it separately from Su-27, but to build a new model _based_ on existing one of -27. Finally, i see 2 main problems here. First, a situation with 2 projects on 1 plane isn't very good, not speaking of 3 projects. Second, there is no tradition of community paying for the models separately. Only if they're in some kind of add-on. It seems to be quite reasonable. OK then, situation clear, thanks!
knellknell Posted September 21, 2006 Posted September 21, 2006 260 000 polys overmodelling is not such a problem imho, since it's so much easier to simplify every 25 lines into 5, then actually modelling those 5 lines. Did you ever try to do this things once ? Simplified a model is NOT a matter of deleying some lines. It's much more complicated, and sometimes take longer time than build a new one from scratch. But you should certainely have a great experience in modeling to say that and having a judgment on ED's workflow.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Maximus_G Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Did you ever try to do this things once ? Simplified a model is NOT a matter of deleying some lines. It's much more complicated, and sometimes take longer time than build a new one from scratch. But you should certainely have a great experience in modeling to say that and having a judgment on ED's workflow.... Try to read carefully - it was IMHO, and it was simplifying, not deleting. And BTW, info about ED's progress on a new Su-27 external model is not my personal judgement, it's actually their words.
SuperKungFu Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Finally, i see 2 main problems here. First, a situation with 2 projects on 1 plane isn't very good, not speaking of 3 projects. I don't believe there is 2 project on 1 plane. So far i only heard of one project to build a new external model and that's strikemax. There's rumors of Ed's model, but from what i have heard there would be no new changes to both the F-15 or the Su-27 in BS. Also, they are just rumors. So I'm not really expecting anything new from them, neither have i seen an Screenshots. I dunno who is working on a 3rd project. Hopefully when strikemax finishes his su-27, he can adjust it to make it to a Su-33 if its not too much trouble. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Disso Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 Try to read carefully - it was IMHO, and it was simplifying, not deleting. And BTW, info about ED's progress on a new Su-27 external model is not my personal judgement, it's actually their words. Simplifying IS deleting. SU-30MKI F/A-18F ...Beauty, grace, lethality.
Maximus_G Posted September 23, 2006 Author Posted September 23, 2006 Also, they are just rumors. They are not. Also look here. Let me translate it - "Actually, there are many models which need rework, but MiG and Su will be there, made by us - i won't say when, but we definitely have enough resources to spend on them." Some time later ED confirmed this information and made it more exact - those models are being made by "residual principle", because all of the resources at this moment of time are concentrated on BS-related subjects. So Su-27 and MiG-29 models from ED are there, but they're far from complete, and there is no target date for them. Simplifying IS deleting. One could say that speaking is opening mouth. But actually that's only part of speaking, get the idea? )
SuperKungFu Posted September 23, 2006 Posted September 23, 2006 I'm aware of those models that appeared on the russian forum, but i said these models probably won't appear in BS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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