Cheats: AUTO Aerial refueling

[VTJS17_Fire]

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Tankers changing speed does happen, as already stated this is due to the orbit speed being set as ground speed, there is no option for mission makers to set a mach or airspeed to hold.

I think you mean the "tanker speed bug", right? IIRC this one is solved, at least for the IL-78M in DCS Nevada. We don't have speed changes by the tanker since a patch a few weeks ago. as we very seldom fly DCS 1.5.x, I can't comment the tankers behavior in the open beta.

 

The aircraft speed at route is also ground speed, if you don't set a arrival time to the waypoint. So, why should the tanker change its speed, when route and orbit parameters are both in ground speed? The only moment, the tanker changes its speed, is while turning to the opposite leg of the orbit.

 

If you want to use airspeed, calculate your desired CAS to ground speed and that's it.

[shagrat]

No, Sierra99 also meant the behavior (missing support) of the boom operator as explained in detail in his and Eddie's previous posts, I guess.

 

EDIT: about the speed changes, just try dynamic weather, or just add a bit of wind to the mission. If you follow through the circle or racetrack the tanker SFM keeps a perfect GS while your airspeed (lift) changes...

Edited September 13, 2016 by shagrat

[VTJS17_Fire]

EDIT: about the speed changes, just try dynamic weather, or just add a bit of wind to the mission. If you follow through the circle or racetrack the tanker SFM keeps a perfect GS while your airspeed (lift) changes...

We fly always with wind and in most of our missions with dynamic weather.

 

Wind doesn't affect your ground or indicated airspeed. It affects your true airspeed, but you don't need this for combat or simple navigation (only with a estimated time).

 

Becauce of that, it doesn't matter. Only altitude has an effect on GS and IAS difference.

 

Example:

Set your tanker to 425 knots GS in the MS at 16.000 feet. That should be around 325 knots IAS. Intercept the tanker and fly to the boom with a few knots more

 

We do this currently with the M-2000 and it works fine. No problems with tanker speed and dynamic weather/ wind.

[shagrat]

Hmm, so this has been fixed a few weeks ago?

I'll give it, yet, another try this weekend.

Still the whole refueling should get some more love...

[104th_Maverick]

 

Wind doesn't affect your ground speed

 

Becauce of that, it doesn't matter. Only altitude has an effect on GS and IAS

 

I'm afraid that's not correct sir, apart from your engines wind is THE biggest factor in your ground speed.

This is why it takes airliners longer to fly to America from Europe than the return trip. Flying West they have a head wind which reduces ground speed and coming back the opposite occurs with a tailwind increasing the ground speed.

 

It's the same in DCS my friend.

 

From the feedback I've been given regarding our tankers it seems to be the S3B that causes most of the issues in 1.5, we swapped them all for Il78s and that seemed to fix the issue on our server.

 

My new PCs arrives in a few weeks, once it's here I ll spend a good amount of time testing all aspects of AAR in DCS and do my best to get the issues fixed with the devs

[Aginor]

Good to hear it is being worked on. Just for laughs I tried refueling an F-15C last night. It didn't go too well.

I haven't flown it in months but it still worked fine until I was in contact position (all lights green, reasonably steady) and the boom operator poked my plane until it exploded, killing both me and the tanker.

It was pretty hilarious.

[shagrat]

Good to hear it is being worked on. Just for laughs I tried refueling an F-15C last night. It didn't go too well.

I haven't flown it in months but it still worked fine until I was in contact position (all lights green, reasonably steady) and the boom operator poked my plane until it exploded, killing both me and the tanker.

It was pretty hilarious.

_sarcasm on_ Noooo, you are just hallucinating, there is nothing wrong with the AAR you just need to practice, practice, practice... _sarcasm off_

 

At least some people told us for a good ten pages. :megalol:

[Aginor]

To be fair I think the bug could be mitigated by flying a bit differently (helping the boom operator by shifting a bit more to the right).

I didn't test it thoroughly since it is a known bug, and I wanted to test something else:

 

The boom operator once cleared me for contact while I was flying in pre-contact-position.... inverted (which is harder than I thought, but was fun to try). :D

I don't have a track unfortunately, it was broken. But I laughed so hard. :D

[VTJS17_Fire]

;2899682']I'm afraid that's not correct sir, apart from your engines wind is THE biggest factor in your ground speed.

You're right, my flaw. :music_whistling: