F-5 and the AGM-45

[Sport]

So doing a little research, I found an obscure source that claims Saudi Arabian F-5E/Fs were capable of carrying and firing the AGM-54. I'm unsure the employment of ARMs, but can you launch them towards a radar source without a lock and they essentially "pitbull" towards the strongest source?

 

If so, is it possible to add these to the F-5 loadout for a makeshift SEAD role? Shrikes and GBU-12s would turn it into a neat Gen 3.5 strike fighter.

[Ktulu2]

The F-5 we have is a copy of the american E version. Export variants had plently upgrades/modifications that completely changed the plane. I highly doubt they'll add this. (you can mod it though :D)

[Sport]

The F-5 we have is a copy of the american E version. Export variants had plently upgrades/modifications that completely changed the plane. I highly doubt they'll add this. (you can mod it though :D)

 

Definitely thinking about it. I'm curious how the ARMs actually work, if you need a lock of some sort or if you can fire towards a radar source and if it'll track.

[T_A]

For the shrike, there is a land based version so i`m guessing that it didn't require a lock before launch.

[ESAc_matador]

They didnt. The first ones in vietnam, gave a growl in the headset like the sidewinders. No need for extra sound.

 

Would be a really interesting "what if" mod.

[cthulhu68]

Thought there was talk of having an AGM for F5 (not sure if it was AGM54 ) but there wasn't enough info on how it worked.

[Hook47]

I would love to see more weapons like this for the F-5. I love the module, but feel like the plane can do so much more than our DCS version, although I know BST choose the version they did for good reason

[Kev2go]

I would love to see more weapons like this for the F-5. I love the module, but feel like the plane can do so much more than our DCS version, although I know BST choose the version they did for good reason

 

well because in air to air it's comparable to the 21bis.

 

 

a2g features shouldn't count as long as it does not get any better a2a functions

 

 

it was more due to lack of documentation than not wanting to give more a2g option

 

BST even said they'd consider giving us a f5 with mavericks if they could find a manual detailing how the TV cam integrated with radar display worked

Edited December 26, 2016 by Kev2go

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

well because in air to air it's comparable to the 21bis.

 

 

a2g features shouldn't count as long as it does not get any better a2a functions

 

 

it was more due to lack of documentation than not wanting to give more a2g option

BST even said they'd consider giving us a f5 with mavericks if they could find a manual detailing how the TV cam integrated with radar display worked

 

Is this still being valid today??, I mean, if we find that info now they could try to add this??

[cthulhu68]

Is this still being valid today??, I mean, if we find that info now they could try to add this??

I remember seeing post or thread that mentioned this and BST said they would add in future if info could be found.

[Eddie]

Definitely thinking about it. I'm curious how the ARMs actually work, if you need a lock of some sort or if you can fire towards a radar source and if it'll track.

 

ARMs don't "lock" per se. They're either pre set to track a specific frequency (or set of frequencies) on the ground, or set to search for a specific emitter type prior to launch. There are then various search and tracking algorithms employed by the missiles in order to get them to track the right emitter in the right area.

 

The caveat to that being modern HARM variants (AARGM) which have GPS aided INS and a MMW RADAR seeker. Therefore they don't need an active emitter at all.

[Robin_Hood]

Sure, but they can tell you if they have found a suitable signal that they can track. Like Sidewinders.

[Fri13]

Community task: Find the official document/information of the system, send it to the developers and you might get it.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

I remember seeing post or thread that mentioned this and BST said they would add in future if info could be found.

 

Nice :thumbup:

 

Community task: Find the official document/information of the system, send it to the developers and you might get it.

 

Thats what I qas going to say!!:D

[Mainstay]

This is where they said about info on the systems

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2547759&postcount=451

 

 

 

 

Maybe ED and Belsimtek could contact a company like this :

 

http://www.usdynamicscorp.com/

http://usdynamicscorp.com/literature/electronic_services/F-5.pdf

 

These guys could probably help better in explaining the systems then any of us

Edited January 7, 2017 by Mainstay

[Kev2go]

This is where they said about info on the systems

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2547759&postcount=451

 

 

 

 

Maybe ED and Belsimtek could contact a company like this :

 

http://www.usdynamicscorp.com/

http://usdynamicscorp.com/literature/electronic_services/F-5.pdf

 

These guys could probably help better in explaining the systems then any of us

 

 

yeah i hope they do. have you contacted someone from BST to give em the links so they could further look into this?

 

anyways link to another Maverick specifc thread. Got some photos of the F5E's equipped with the TV display.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=171297

Edited January 10, 2017 by Kev2go