Gosche Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just installed the SSA and unfortunately gets this error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Just installed the SSA and unfortunately gets this error. When you get that error there should be a green icon in your task tray. It is the seat handler 1.0.0.8. On it there is a drop down box to select the force feel seat. See if that fixes it. Edited March 17, 2019 by Arctander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosche Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Strange...the app apparently starts, (and I have rumble) but when trying to open the UWV editor, I get a NET framework error. I checked that I have Microsoft .NET framework 4.6.1 (apparently I have this or a newer, since I cannot install from MS site and get a message I have or a newer version. I know this is s beta, so should I be able to adjust settings in the editor ?, or is this a "bug". I run Win10 Pro 64bit. -------- System.NullReferenceException: The object reference is not set to an instance of an object. ved UWVeditor.Form1.timer1_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e) ved System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e) ved System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) ved System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosche Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 When you get that error there should be a green icon in your task tray. It is the seat handler 1.0.0.8. On it there is a drop down box to select the force feel seat. See if that fixes it. It did :) but cannot use the "editor", is that normal (get e .NET framework error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I don’t know i’m afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Hey fellows, Here are several issues mixed together... I got a message from the Realtus dev with a new library/dll for the seat. I hope to test this library soon... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 That’s good to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosche Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Hey fellows, Here are several issues mixed together... I got a message from the Realtus dev with a new library/dll for the seat. I hope to test this library soon... Super, looking forward to hear further :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwalter Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Is it just me feeling only 6 motors out of 8 vibrating on the Realteus ForceFeel with SSA? iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, i7 4 GHz, 32 GB RAM, AMD R9 M395X 4 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | Cougar MFD | MFG Crosswind | EDTracker Pro | Realteus ForceFeel DCS World | Bf109 | Fw190 A8/D9 | P47 | P51 | Spitfire | I16 | C101 | L39 | F86F | MiG15 | MiG19 | MiG21 | FC3 | A10C | AJS37 | AV8BNA | F5 | F14 | F16 | F/A18 | M2000 | JF17 | Christen Eagle | Yak52 | SA342 | UH1H | Mi8 | Ka50 | Combined Arms | NS430 | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Channel | Syria | NTTR | WWII Assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NosTr4D4m Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I can also report that with ForceFeel and DCS A10C - after I crash/get shot down. ForceFeel pad keeps vibrating until I close the SSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Is it just me feeling only 6 motors out of 8 vibrating on the Realteus ForceFeel with SSA? SSA says the seat to use all 8 motors but with 6 motor files. Thus I *should* control all motors! What do others observe? Maybe another issue which must be solved by the Realtus devs... I can also report that with ForceFeel and DCS A10C - after I crash/get shot down. ForceFeel pad keeps vibrating until I close the SSA Thanks, I try to reproduce it... Update: I just published a new beta with the new ForceFell.dll. Maybe this improves the situation... Edited March 19, 2019 by f4l0 f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) No change for me. On test mode the 5th motor keeps running and won't stop requiring physical shut down of the seat. Edit: If I close and restart SSA I get this error from the seat handler: https://imgur.com/K4Qq2KX Then this one https://imgur.com/VPwmSni Edited March 19, 2019 by Arctander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) After restart I Also tried a quick flight in an F18. As soon as I pulled G/caused turbulence the effect got stuck. I can report however that all eight motors were vibrating for me.... Is it possible that the seat gets stuck with an effect it then blocks all following signals? Or could it be a 'disconnect' that leaves the last effect playing? Is there any way of seeing a log? Edited March 19, 2019 by Arctander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I can also report that with ForceFeel and DCS A10C - after I crash/get shot down. ForceFeel pad keeps vibrating until I close the SSA Is it just ejecting? I.e. does afterburner or turbulence or ground roll also cause it? Does shutting down ssa stop it, or did you need to press the physical button on the seat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NosTr4D4m Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just did a short test flight. The A10C crash still requires me to reboot PC, if I want to use SSA with DCS. When the plane crashes, vibration is constant but only in most forward motors (closest to the knees), shutting off ForceFeel pad with the button, of course, stops vibrations, but the will continue when the unit is turned back on. Shutting down DCS does not stop vibrations. Turning Off SSA and starting it again stops vibrations, but I also a loose connection to the unit - massage or motor test function does not work, the pad does not react to DCS. I have tried to end processes: ibaJetSeatHandler and SSA, and start SSA again, this does not restore the connection to ForceFeel pad. Restart of PC helps. Which process should be restarted to regain connection to ForceFeel pad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just did a short test flight. The A10C crash still requires me to reboot PC, if I want to use SSA with DCS. When the plane crashes, vibration is constant but only in most forward motors (closest to the knees), shutting off ForceFeel pad with the button, of course, stops vibrations, but the will continue when the unit is turned back on. Shutting down DCS does not stop vibrations. Turning Off SSA and starting it again stops vibrations, but I also a loose connection to the unit - massage or motor test function does not work, the pad does not react to DCS. I have tried to end processes: ibaJetSeatHandler and SSA, and start SSA again, this does not restore the connection to ForceFeel pad. Restart of PC helps. Which process should be restarted to regain connection to ForceFeel pad? No change for me. On test mode the 5th motor keeps running and won't stop requiring physical shut down of the seat. Edit: If I close and restart SSA I get this error from the seat handler: https://imgur.com/K4Qq2KX Then this one https://imgur.com/VPwmSni So, only one motor is running crazy? What happens if you close the ibeJetseatHandler application? That's the app you selected that you like to use the ForceFeel... I'm currently on the road and be at home not until tomorrow evening... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca787546 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm getting the same errors as Arctander from SeatHandler. And I am getting nothing from the ForceFeel. Unfortunately the last update seems to have broken things for me. I check with the ForceFeel Control Center and the connection works and all motors are working, but unfortunately I'm getting nothing from SSA when I launch DCS or X-plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NosTr4D4m Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) Closing ibaJetSeatHandler stops vibrations. But i am not able to interact with seat without doing a proper PC restart. I am closing SSA and ibaJetSeatHandler processes in task manager, and starting it SSA again. Seat Handler 1.0.0.8 opens partly - GUI is not rendered fully, small form, no seat picture and nothing to choose. SSA won't interact with seat - motor test does not work. If I click on it Seat Handler icon I get the option to start ibaSeatHandler process but this gives same errors as Arctander posted. Upon a plane crash, my ForceFeel seat keeps running motor 1 and 2. image to seat motors https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7919/39804112013_50c47c8403_b.jpg Edited March 19, 2019 by NosTr4D4m image to big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Closing ibaJetSeatHandler stops vibrations. But i am not able to interact with seat without doing a proper PC restart. I am closing SSA and ibaJetSeatHandler processes in task manager, and starting it SSA again. Seat Handler 1.0.0.8 opens partly - GUI is not rendered fully, small form, no seat picture and nothing to choose. SSA won't interact with seat - motor test does not work. If I click on it Seat Handler icon I get the option to start ibaSeatHandler process but this gives same errors as Arctander posted. Upon a plane crash, my ForceFeel seat keeps running motor 1 and 2. image to seat motors https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7919/39804112013_50c47c8403_b.jpg Could you please perform the following test. Disable the damage effect in SSA, open view->experimental effect monitor and then crash the plane. What effect is running crazy? f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) So, only one motor is running crazy? What happens if you close the ibeJetseatHandler application? That's the app you selected that you like to use the ForceFeel... I'm currently on the road and be at home not until tomorrow evening... Hi f410. Only motor 5 gets 'stuck' when doing the test run in SSA. When in game, and an effect gets 'stuck' it's every motor (all 8 ). Closing the ibeJetSeatHandler has no effect on the forcefeel seat. I have to press the physical button on the seat and restart. Edited March 19, 2019 by Arctander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctander Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) I've just run two tests using the experimental monitor. the first test I disabled damage I took off under afterburner and the effect persisted when back into military power. Experimental monitor showed this even after I crashed the plane. https://imgur.com/m0WThxI I then disabled afterburner, and took off on military power. Got some speed and popped out my speedbrake. An Effect persisted but when I looked at the monitor I saw nothing 'active' (If I understand correctly) https://imgur.com/dYd5lcL Edited March 19, 2019 by Arctander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NosTr4D4m Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Disabling Damage effect solves my problem. Which was Damage effect stucks after the plane is destroyed I am flying A10C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Disabling Damage effect solves my problem. Which was Damage effect stucks after the plane is destroyed I am flying A10C I'll have a look if there is maybe a bug with one of the effect files... @All I plan to release a new beta tonight or tomorrow with some enhancements regarding the seat handler... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums SimShaker for Aviators (simshaker-for-aviators.github.io) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) With the last 2 beta versions of SSA, my ForceFeel doesn't work when DCS launches. I also can't run any vibration test. ibaJetSeatHandler shows the green icon in the taskbar, but I can't open it by left-clicking. I only hear a Windows "ding" when I try to open it, but nothing happens. Only when I right click the icon, following errors appear: Before the 1-before-last beta update, my ForceFeel worked fine. Having ForceFeel Control Centre installed or not installed doesn't make any difference. Uninstalling and re-installing SSA also didn't help. Edited March 20, 2019 by Elysian Angel Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ca787546 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 With the last 2 beta versions of SSA, my ForceFeel doesn't work when DCS launches. I also can't run any vibration test. ibaJetSeatHandler shows the green icon in the taskbar, but I can't open it by left-clicking. I only hear a Windows "ding" when I try to open it, but nothing happens. Only when I right click the icon, following errors appear: Before the 1-before-last beta update, my ForceFeel worked fine. Having ForceFeel Control Centre installed or not installed doesn't make any difference. Uninstalling and re-installing SSA also didn't help. I also have this same issue. I have written a bit more detailed message to Olaf about it. I wonder if it's the new ForceFeel DLL? I'm not sure. I try re-installing, re-starting, closing ibaJetSeatHandler, I even tried grabbing the ForceFeel.dll from the ForceFeel Control Center and putting it in the SSA folder as a replacement, but unfortunately to no avail. For now I am back to just using the FF in sound mode which is nowhere as rewarding or immersive as when using the amazing SSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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