Barao Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 My GPU crashed So, urgent, I need to by a new one. I know that my rig need a upgrade, but for now I only have money to buy a GPU and a SSD. Next year I will change the Mother Board, CPU and RAM. Considering upcoming DCS 2.5 and future upgrade that I will do, what GPU should I buy, considering that I want 60 FPS in DCS 2.5? 1. GTX 1060, saving some money to invest in a SSD? 2. GTX 1070, Will DCS 2.5 needs this kind of performance to run with 60 FPS? Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
BitMaster Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 The 1060GTX is about as fast ( maybe 5% less according to reviews ) as my 980GTX @ 1440p. Thats OK for around 60fps in 2.0 alpha.... If you have the money i`d get the 1070 and add SSD couple weeks later, you cant add a x10 to a 1060 and make it a 1070 6 weeks later ° Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted October 26, 2016 Author Posted October 26, 2016 Thanks BitMaster, it helps a lot. Is your screen 1440p? Do you expect that your GTX 980 will run DCS 2.5 in 60 FPS all the time? What is your in game configuration? Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Konovalov Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 My two cents is to get the cheapest 1070 that you can lay your hands on. And if noise is a concern then perhaps avoid any of the blower type designs. This will do 1440p at 60fps plus in pretty much all titles. With DCS 2.0 yes you will get the 60fps. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
BitMaster Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Yes, I run 1440p Gsync Asus screen with 980GTX , my sig is not visible atm... sorry based on 16GB/i7-4.8GHz/SSD foundation to be precise I get anywhere from 50-144 fps in Nevada, depending on where and what I fly. Visibility is always set to extreme, and most on HIGH but shadows medium and flat terrain, rest is HIGH. MSaa2x, 16x ASF, 512res cockpit ( NOT each frame ), no effects, Preload max, trees at 50%, grass 50% round about that is how I fly 2.x Edited October 27, 2016 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 Thanks to all. The options that I have after a lot of research are: 1. GTX 1060 zotac 2. GTX 1070 EVGA 40% more expensive than 1060 3. GTX 1070 Asus 55% more expensive than 1060 Enviado de meu MotoG3 usando Tapatalk Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Barao Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 These are the cheapest one that l found. What is the best option, considering the cost benefit? Enviado de meu MotoG3 usando Tapatalk Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
cichlidfan Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Given the choices, and assuming the budget will handle it, I would get the ASUS. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
bl_asd Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Wait on SSD, just get 1070 and never look back.
BitMaster Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 Asus +1 you cant add quality afterwards, but you can add a SSD anytime Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted October 28, 2016 Author Posted October 28, 2016 People say that Asus customer support is terrible, is it true? Enviado de meu MotoG3 usando Tapatalk Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Patersonski Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 I upgraded to an ASUS 1070 a week ago in preparation for 2.5. Works fine, no issues. Can't speak to their customer service. Rig: i7-6850K, Sapphire 6900XT, 32GB RAM, Asus X99-Pro board. Gear: VPC WarBRD/MongoosT-50 Stick, VPC MongoosMT-50 Throttle, VKB T-Rudders Mk.IV Pedals, HP Reverb G2.
PureEvil Posted October 28, 2016 Posted October 28, 2016 People say that Asus customer support is terrible, is it true? from my own experience if something is wrong with hardware, turn to store you bought products from. and if something is terribly wrong, it happens in a few weeks, so warranty from the store is still valid. STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx
Barao Posted October 29, 2016 Author Posted October 29, 2016 And this, 1070 zotac mini, it is cheapest option here. 5 years of guarantee. http://asuswrt.net/2016/09/24/zotac-gtx1070-mini-review/ Enviado de meu MotoG3 usando Tapatalk Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Barao Posted November 1, 2016 Author Posted November 1, 2016 Asus has two versions for DUAL, one with and one without OC. Why that? It would be made with components of better quality than the other? Near here has normal version for a good price, can I get it, or try to find DUAL OC? Enviado de meu MotoG3 usando Tapatalk Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
BitMaster Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 The faster one "might" have more Phases for power supply to the card and likely have a more potent cooling along with a higher set PowerTarget, defined in GPU-card's Bios. Both may overclock just as good....some of the diff is marketing, some of it real hardware differences. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted November 2, 2016 Author Posted November 2, 2016 Ok, I bought Asus Dual 1070 normal (without OC). And, a SSD :music_whistling: I squeezed the last money from my wallet. The upgrade of the motherboard, CPU and RAM will have to wait more now. :disgust: Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Konovalov Posted November 3, 2016 Posted November 3, 2016 Ok, I bought Asus Dual 1070 normal (without OC). And, a SSD :music_whistling: I squeezed the last money from my wallet. The upgrade of the motherboard, CPU and RAM will have to wait more now. :disgust: Well done. Glad you managed to squeeze an SSD in there. Suggest that you put your OS Windows on the SSD plus important apps/games. Let us know how you find the system after those two upgrades. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
BitMaster Posted November 3, 2016 Posted November 3, 2016 Good deal & strategy ! Yeah, keep us informed how it runs after those 2 upgrades. I currently run my 980GTX on a stock-clocked i7-920 / Asus P6T6-WS-Rev with only 6GB RAM and I can fly real good as long as it is OFFLINE and no big sceanrios, enuff to bridge the gap. Leave the CPU Killers on low and you are fine, I get up to 100+ fps on mostly HIGH but some turned down on 1440p. Not all in DCS is CPU filling or limited per se, you can choose with the scenario on how much load you squeeze on such an old CPU like ours. With my former i7-2600k at 4.8 I had no that much more eye candy tbh...it's a high price you pay for a few sliders going right and little reward if there werent all those objects in MP that flood small CPU and RAM as I now had to find out. Time for my 6700k to arrive... Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted November 3, 2016 Author Posted November 3, 2016 Which are the CPU killers? I will maximize configuratios to explore the GPU and save the CPU. Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Konovalov Posted November 5, 2016 Posted November 5, 2016 I currently run my 980GTX on a stock-clocked i7-920 / Asus P6T6-WS-Rev with only 6GB RAM and I can fly real good as long as it is OFFLINE and no big sceanrios, enuff to bridge the gap. Leave the CPU Killers on low and you are fine, I get up to 100+ fps on mostly HIGH but some turned down on 1440p. Not all in DCS is CPU filling or limited per se, you can choose with the scenario on how much load you squeeze on such an old CPU like ours. With my former i7-2600k at 4.8 I had no that much more eye candy tbh...it's a high price you pay for a few sliders going right and little reward if there werent all those objects in MP that flood small CPU and RAM as I now had to find out. Time for my 6700k to arrive... This is what I found in particular with either multiplayer or lot's of activity going on when I had only 6GB of RAM and my i7-950 at stock 3.06Ghz. Doubling the RAM and overclocking by 1.2Ghz did yield decent improvement. But sadly now I feel my old X58 rig is getting long in the tooth. Plus I think the Nvidia GTX1070 is getting tired of waiting on the old CPU it has to work with. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
Barao Posted November 5, 2016 Author Posted November 5, 2016 4.26 Ghz is not enough????? :fear: Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
Konovalov Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 4.26 Ghz is not enough????? :fear: It's good certainly compared to stock 3.06 but it just can't satisfy the demands of the GTX1070 from what I have read. Also this rig has been ticking over for well over 5 years and the motherboard features or lack of is starting to show it's age. Even my wife has given me the green light to upgrade. So it is near time to put this rig out to pasture. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
BitMaster Posted November 6, 2016 Posted November 6, 2016 What matters is STP, single thread performance. if you had a 4-core CPU doing 3500 passmark STP's you'd be king of DCS :) I am unsure if any system not on LN2 has well passed the 3k mark yet. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Barao Posted November 6, 2016 Author Posted November 6, 2016 Even my wife has given me the green light to upgrade. So it is near time to put this rig out to pasture. I'm in negotiations too :music_whistling::( Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280
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