Frederf Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 If user can decide if he wants to put it or what stops them putting it on if they're in "Realistic" mission What stops them is that the munitions resource for that particular airfield is not stocked with that kind of pylon. What prevents nuclear bomb use for MiG-21 users? You just don't include those munitions as available. Mission check boxes are not the only possible avenue for availability enforcement nor arguably the best. It's a false dichotomy to suggest it has to be a ME check box or "anything goes lulz."
NevSmith Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 This is the option in the ME: By default the DDM sensors will be mounted. You have to explicitly disallow them. Indeed: a very good solution; thank's Zeus :thumbup:. To me, it can be always mounted.
Pikey Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 +1 for the Razbam approach. Given this platform is a sandbox simulator the arguement that it never happened is pointless and secondary compared to the fact that it was clearly possible and can reasonably be simulated. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
ESAc_matador Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Razbam is becoming an example of third party developer so far. Just wanted to say so.
flecha78 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 http://florent1973.free.fr/FrenchAirWings/francais/walk%20around/autres_charges/Rail_Magic_Mirage2000/w_rail_magic_Mirage2000_2.htm
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 some pictures from Razbam's Facebook page: the coverage in these pics looks much wider, than in Robin_Hood's diagram ... and how about Air-to-Air IR-Missiles ? will they be detected ? and Radar Guided missiles ? will they be detected ? what if RWR is broken and D2M is not ? will D2M show Radar-Guided missile launch ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OperatorJack Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 and Radar Guided missiles ? will they be detected ? what if RWR is broken and D2M is not ? will D2M show Radar-Guided missile launch ? My assumption is yes, because the Radar missiles still give off the telltale signs of a missile launch. /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 of course IRL D2M should also detect them I'm asking about RAZBAM's implementation [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 Due to thecnical constrains I had to implement 3 "eyes" per sensor. The coverage is still 180 degrees azimuth and 80 degrees elevation. Unfortunately there is no way for me to block the upper coverage so I rotated the sensor eyes to simulate it. It looks like there is no "blind spot" but that is an optical illusion created by the drawing of the rotated cones. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 okay, clear great work as always ! how about radar guided missiles ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 of course IRL D2M should also detect them I'm asking about RAZBAM's implementation Here is the problem: the RWR and the D2M are independent sensors and they both have their own alarms. To prevent sensorial overload to the pilot, the D2M asks if the RWR has detected the missile. If it has then it disregards the threat because the RWR already has it covered. If for any reason the RWR is malfunctioning the D2M will sound the alarm. This last part is still untested so I don't know if it will work as intended. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 and do air-to-air missiles count ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
myHelljumper Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 The D2M will only detect missiles with active rocket motor right ? Edit: I think that the eyes position is spot on, great job here =D Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 and do air-to-air missiles count ? All missiles within the sensors fov will be detected and subject to the same rule. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 The D2M will only detect missiles with active rocket motor right ? I think so. I have no control over that. Edit: I think that the eyes position is spot on, great job here =D Thanks. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
myHelljumper Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Looking forward to test it =) Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 sounds awesome, Zeus67, as always ! have you submitted this to ED already ? should we hope to have it in the upcoming patch ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 sounds awesome, Zeus67, as always ! have you submitted this to ED already ? should we hope to have it in the upcoming patch ? Yes. It has been submitted to ED so it will be in the upcoming patch. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Rlaxoxo Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Thanks! I have a question tho ... Does this system warn you as soon as the missile enters the cone while it's engine is burning or does it only detect the launch? If so will rolling the aircraft after the missile has been fired from below you for example (Blind Spot) and in turn making the missile enter the FoV of the sensor will warning then be issued as it's engine is sill burning? Edited December 1, 2016 by Rlaxoxo [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2016 Author Posted December 1, 2016 Thanks! I have a question tho ... Does this system warn you as soon as the missile enters the cone while it's engine is burning or does it only detect the launch? If so will rolling the aircraft after the missile has been fired from below you for example (Blind Spot) and in turn making the missile enter the FoV of the sensor will warning then be issued as it's engine is sill burning? It detects the missile while the engine is burning. If the missile is detected at launch but then it gets outside the sensor fov due to maneuvering, the missile will disappear from the RWR. The audio alarm rings for 10 seconds upon detection, so the alarm will keep sounding even if the D2M loses contact with the missile itself. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
ZHeN Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Just like RWR now - it still keeps sounding for a while even if the attacking missile missed [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gliptal Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 What happens with two consecutive launches at less than 10 seconds apart? Are two lines drawn, or does the second launch override the first one visually? Also, why was a line chosen instead of a symbol like the A-10C does?
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