Ah-1w vs Ah-64a

[SandMartin]

Guys, what difference between this two?

 

Whats better?

 

I see, there are have identical armament and weight, all can carry 16 hellfires and a-a misslenls in hardpoints, and only differense is a gun

[WinterH]

As far as I know AH-1W can carry 8 Hellfires, not 16, inner hardpoints on Cobras aren't wired for Hellfire if I'm not mistaken. Maybe the Z can though.

 

As for the A-A missiles, I don't think A version has them. D does but not the US ones, some of the export Longbows could carry Stingers. I seem to recall reading latest version, the E, could mount A-A missiles in US inventory too, but don't quote me on that.

[schroedi]

Ah-1W can only carry guieded missles on the outer pylons, so max 8xTOW or 8xHellfire. The inner pylons can only handle unguided weapons. The max weight of the cobra is about 6600kg. The Ah-64A can use indeed 16 Hellfires and its maximum weight is over 9000kg and it has a good amound of armor, the cobra doesn't.

[Rangi]

Any ideas on which has the best optics?

[SandMartin]

I see 16 hellfires, maybe its not Ah-1W and some prototype..

 

 

 

And Why US AH-64 cant carry a-a missles ? i think, four stingers on wingtips is normal loadout for them (I remember, I see stingers on Ah-64A from 1990 "Firebirds" movie who released before AH-64D was made), and it was US apaches becouse filming locations was in Arizona

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099575/locations?ref_=tt_dt_dt

 

 

 

P.S. I was surpsrised to know, what supercobra heavier than apache. 4660kg (Apache) vs 4953 (Super Cobra)

Edited November 27, 2016 by SandMartin

[shagrat]

AH-64 was designed for survivability. Armored, redundant systems in opposite locations, blades can withstand heavy damage, etc.

AH-1W or newer was upgraded over time, but is still the basic design from the Vietnam war timeframe.

Optics and IR-Sensors/Lasers were part of the concept from the start and the AH-64 had a HelmetMountedDisplay to point the gun.

I guess a current AH-1 Supercobra has most systems upgraded and not that different from the "old" Apache.

 

The AH-64D Longbow is a different story.

[schroedi]

The Cobra 16 Hellfires on the picture is a Ah-1Z with six hardpoints and four rotor blades.

I am not 100% sure but aren't the Ah-64 with Stingers on the wingtips Ah-64Ds just without the Longbow Radar?

[SandMartin]

The Cobra 16 Hellfires on the picture is a Ah-1Z with six hardpoints and four rotor blades.

I am not 100% sure but aren't the Ah-64 with Stingers on the wingtips Ah-64Ds just without the Longbow Radar?

 

This screenshot from film, from 1990 year, its mean that is A version. Longbow was introdused later.