javelina1 Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 Using TrackIR. I have the Co-pilot and Engineer mapped with keyboard keys "2" and "3". Yet when I select either, it throws me into the center of the chopper (where the troopers sit). So I can't view the cockpit. I've zoomed in/out, normal, No Joy. No issue with the Pilot or "1" view. Any suggestions? MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
Art-J Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 Some time ago, what You describe was a symptom of Mi-8 cockpit mods, or "pilot neck" mod becoming incompatible with newest game version. If You have any mods in Your DCS, my suggestion would be turning them off one by one and checking how the Mi-8 works. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
javelina1 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Posted December 19, 2016 Some time ago, what You describe was a symptom of Mi-8 cockpit mods, or "pilot neck" mod becoming incompatible with newest game version. If You have any mods in Your DCS, my suggestion would be turning them off one by one and checking how the Mi-8 works. thanks for the tip. I removed all of my DCS mods. Just trying out the vanilla 1.5.5, and wanting to do the cold start built-in mission. I still get the same issue. When selecting the Co-Pilot or Engineer, (2 or 3), it throws me into the cargo area and I can't view the cockpit. Weird. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
Art-J Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Rgr that. Let's try something different then. Move the content of Saved Games\DCS\ from Your system partition somewhere else for a minute, let the game reset its settings and try again. If something's messed up in Your custom user settings stored there, You can keep reinstalling DCS till the end of the world and it won't change a thing. Edited December 19, 2016 by Art-J 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
NeilWillis Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 Might be worth trying uninstalling the Mi-8 alone if all else fails. Or possibly the rest of the crew are just trying to tell you something? Did you eat all the sweets the load master put in the back to lure in the soldiers?
javelina1 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Posted December 19, 2016 Rgr that. Let's try something different then. Move the content of Saved Games\DCS\ from Your system partition somewhere else for a minute, let the game reset its settings and try again. If something's messed up in Your custom user settings stored there, You can keep reinstalling DCS till the end of the world and it won't change a thing. I renamed "saved games\DCS" to something else, and relaunched. After jumping into Mi-8 free flight, I was able to toggle between views 1, 2, and 3 without issue. Must be something corrupted in my saved games I presume. thanks Art-J, I'll do a little digging! -Jav MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
javelina1 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Posted December 19, 2016 Might be worth trying uninstalling the Mi-8 alone if all else fails. Or possibly the rest of the crew are just trying to tell you something? Did you eat all the sweets the load master put in the back to lure in the soldiers? Heck, I bought him some extra Vodka! ;):thumbup::lol: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
NeilWillis Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 Not the sweet thing then - glad you have it resolved.
javelina1 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Posted December 20, 2016 Just to close out the issue (in case someone searches with a similar problem). My remedy: - went into my Saved Games\DCS\Config\View sub-dir. I found a couple old files; Server.lua & SnapViews.lua and renamed them Afterwards, I had no issue with the Cockpit views for the Engineer and Co-Pilot. My thanks to Art-J for pointing me in this direction.:thumbup: And a thanks to NeilWillis for the moral support... ;) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
Art-J Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 I pointed to the folder, but didn't remember which files exactly were responsible for that. Will know for future references now! i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
firmek Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 Server.lua is a part of "proper neck" "mod". Actually it's not really a mod but rather a way for user view configuration. You must have had an quite old version of it. Note that if you've removed the Server.lua and SnapViews.lua, all of your modules will come back to default view settings - head position, angles, field of view, shoulder size, neck size, max/min zoom. Although with removed Server.lua every module will use it's own, different size of the neck, shoulders and min/max zoom, try bringing back SnapViews.lua file as there is a good chance it wasn't causing the problem. Thanks to this you'll restore back your own settings for head position, default view angle and field of view. The "mod" is located here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96116&page=22 - it's not updated though with the latest changes for Mi-8 gunners or Spitfire. F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all
javelina1 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Posted December 21, 2016 Server.lua is a part of "proper neck" "mod". Actually it's not really a mod but rather a way for user view configuration. You must have had an quite old version of it. Note that if you've removed the Server.lua and SnapViews.lua, all of your modules will come back to default view settings - head position, angles, field of view, shoulder size, neck size, max/min zoom. Although with removed Server.lua every module will use it's own, different size of the neck, shoulders and min/max zoom, try bringing back SnapViews.lua file as there is a good chance it wasn't causing the problem. Thanks to this you'll restore back your own settings for head position, default view angle and field of view. The "mod" is located here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=96116&page=22 - it's not updated though with the latest changes for Mi-8 gunners or Spitfire. thanks M8, I'll check this out! :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
firmek Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 If you're interested I've uploaded an updated version of Server.lua supporting Mi-8 gunners (engi and nav are also working) and Spitfire. 1 F/A-18, F-16, F-14, M-2000C, A-10C, AV-8B, AJS-37 Viggen, F-5E-3, F-86F, MiG-21bis, MiG-15bis, L-39 Albatros, C-101 Aviojet, P-51D, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, Bf 109 4-K, UH-1H, Mi-8, Ka-50, NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf... and not enough time to fully enjoy it all
javelina1 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Posted December 22, 2016 If you're interested I've uploaded an updated version of Server.lua supporting Mi-8 gunners (engi and nav are also working) and Spitfire. Sweet!, thx!. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
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