New ED SU-25K Model.........WHEN !

[504MrWolf]

Ive waited for this model all my Lockon "career" !!

 

Please ED give us a rough idea of when it will be released !! ?? :)

 

Yours Faithfully, Me.:joystick:

 

http://www.lockon-models.com/index.php?showtopic=116

[Pilotasso]

Dont be angry:

 

W.H.E.N. I.T.S. D.O.N.N.E. :D

[Guest IguanaKing]

When the rest of the code is finally written to run on "the systems of the future"!!! On that, GREAT DAY, you will finally have your Su-25K. :D

[SuperKungFu]

Still no word about new western models though. I would just like to know if these models would find themselves into Black Shark or do that plan to put it in a huge patch. We can't expect it to be in the next addon because there is none after BS for Lock On. Maybe in the next product?

[Witchking]

ED....please do this. Please add the freakin su 25 model in BS. its unfair to the poor su 25 to have all the new AFM + damage model but have the crappy old flanker 2 3d model.

 

comeon' ED...don't tease us and tell us ... " oh! sorry...this model is reserved for later".

 

Close the lock on chapter with enough goodies to keep us satisfied till the next few yrs before ground attack or whatever :p.

 

at the same time a new A-10 would be appreciated. :) . I have said enough. :D

[SuperKungFu]

no not enough said lol. New Su-27 and F-15 model, that's my main wish. But yea sure MiG-29, A-10, Su-33, Su-25 would be a bonus. lol At least we have strike working on Su-27 so no matter what in the future we will get one new model, as for the rest...can't really say.

[Witchking]

yeah..lol! strikemax's model is the main reason why I didn't say Su-27 in my list. :p

 

The main other plane I love in lomac is the A-10. Thats why I mentioned it. However, I seriously don't care about the F15 or the mig 29. lol! ....sorry F15 and mig29 fanboys...thats just me. :p . Now I know you guys 'may' have a different opinion. :D

[theGozr]

Yes we have.

[Kula66]

In the next project? Man that is going to be a mega sim ... ;)

[504MrWolf]

Woah this is my thread ! ;)

 

SU25K is more important than all the other airframes in this game !! :D

 

I guess this new Su25 model will reduce my FPS to 15 when taxi/flying behind just like the SU25T ? :) Actually just taxiing really.

 

Im sure they will update all the models this year, you can see they have a MIG29A and SU27 model in stages of completion. But for me the only plane i fly on a daily basis and give a crap about is the SU25K, since its nearly done im wondering how they will release it ?

 

EXE or LOM files ? I dont care about file size i dont think twice about downloading FPS patches that are usually 500-1000+ mb in size.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Su-25K is an export version of the plain Su-25. There is some confusion with letter designation because of proposed catapult launched carrier based Shturmovik was going to be labeled Su-25K (Korabyelnyy) as well.

[Mechanist]

Guys! The Su-25K is an export version! Russia Ukraine and Georgia still have the "old" Su-25A standard soviet version. Beside the "old" A version is better then the K export version, because it is a downgrader verison of the A. No exhaust gas cooler and i thing cannon is weaker to then in the standard A version and so on.

 

I know the letter K is kooler but the A is the name of the game ;)

 

By the way this modell looks just like they changeing the Su-25T modell. Finally they've realise how easily they can satisfy the great community of the Frog drivers.

[SuperKungFu]

Stupid question: is there any external difference between the K and the A model. If there is none, then i hope that new Su-25 model can replace our flyable we have now.

[504MrWolf]

ooops my bad i get confused with the K and A:poster_oops:

[Witchking]

ANNNYWWWAYS!!!... are we getting a new su 25 FLYABLE model??? New missiles, new chopper, new AI vehicles is one thing.....a new flyable model is another. :D

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Stupid question: is there any external difference between the K and the A model. If there is none, then i hope that new Su-25 model can replace our flyable we have now.

Externally, Su-25K IFF antenna looked differently. Internally, few minor differences.

[Guest IguanaKing]

IFF antennae are IFF antennae...they don't look different no matter what aircraft they're mounted on. They are ALL L-band antennae, and most are mounted externally due to the metal in most air-frames. Maybe they're mounted in a different location, but they are NOT different between aircraft. Heh...just thought I'd clear that up. :D

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

IFF antennae are IFF antennae...they don't look different no matter what aircraft they're mounted on.

The antenna of the ”Odd Rods” Soviet IFF system used on many aircraft is described as triple bladed. Odd Rods was used on many Soviet S-25’s as well as on Su-25K.(1)

 

Parol IFF antenna is described as small triangular shaped blade. Parol IFF system was used on later soviet Su-25’s. (1)

 

They are ALL L-band antennae, …

Apparently, Parol is a D-Band system.(1)

 

Heh...just thought I'd clear that up. :D

Well, thanks for “clearing” that up.

 

(1)Source: Sukhoi Su-25 Frgofoot, Close air support aircraft by

Yefim Gordon and Alan Dawes

[Mechanist]

Thats true!

Plus the K have an R-95Sh engine with no exhaust gas cooler, not like the late series A, witch have an R-195Sh engine. This is the most significant difference between the late series A (witch we have in the LO) and the K version.

[Guest IguanaKing]

The antenna of the ”Odd Rods” Soviet IFF system used on many aircraft is described as triple bladed. Odd Rods was used on many Soviet S-25’s as well as on Su-25K.(1)

 

Parol IFF antenna is described as small triangular shaped blade. Parol IFF system was used on later soviet Su-25’s. (1)

 

Apparently, Parol is a D-Band system.(1)

 

Well, thanks for “clearing” that up.

 

(1)Source: Sukhoi Su-25 Frgofoot, Close air support aircraft by

Yefim Gordon and Alan Dawes

 

Hajduk, if you spent HALF as much time actually living what you write as opposed to doing what you do, insulting other people and bragging about what you "know" as "facts", with absolutely NO REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE, you would be laughing at yourself right now. D-band and L-band are exactly the same thing...it all depends on whether or not you are using the NATO or civilian classification system. Come back and comment on frequency, then we'll talk...OK..."technician"? Can the antennae look different? Yes...the number of blades often depends on whether or not Mode S diversity is in play on their transponder.

 

Now...I hope that clears things up FINALLY for you wannabes who think you know anything about this stuff. :D

 

(1) Source: real-life!!! Been doing it for the last 18 years! :D

[Stealth_HR]

Hajduk, if you spent HALF as much time actually living what you write as opposed to doing what you do, insulting other people and bragging about what you "know" as "facts", with absolutely NO REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE, you would be laughing at yourself right now. D-band and L-band are exactly the same thing.

 

I'm no real-world engineer. I'm just an electrotechnics/compsci student with a minor aspect in physics.

 

The NATO D-Band is a 1GHz-2GHz portion of the spectrum. L-Band is either 0.5GHz-~1.5GHz by IEEE definition or 40GHz-60GHz in case of the NATO L-Band. Ergo, the NATO L-Band you suggested is definitely not equal to the NATO D-Band. If they do share the frequency spectrum (in case of the IE3-L and the NATO-D), you've still got a margin of -0.5GHz downwards for the IE3-L and +0.5 for NATO-D.

 

Thought that needed clarification. Either way, jeez. You people are bickering about the shape of the antenna on a model. Grab photos, post them here, highlight and circle out the antenna and then discuss, right now, to a casual observer, you're pulling facts and factoids from where the sun don't shine.

 

S~.

[504MrWolf]

ANNNYWWWAYS!!!... are we getting a new su 25 FLYABLE model??? New missiles, new chopper, new AI vehicles is one thing.....a new flyable model is another. :D

 

Those model screenies were sent to Lockon Models by Chizh and he says the Su25 is almost finished, so i'd say we are definatly getting them.

 

I hope we dont have to wait for Black Shark to get them !! :cry:

 

:pilotfly: :joystick:

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

D-band and L-band are exactly the same thing...

NATO D-band and NATO L-band is not the same is it?

 

it all depends on whether or not you are using the NATO or civilian classification system.

So, when you mentioned L-band, why didn’t you say what “clarification system” you were referring to? If you and me were talking about the same frequency STANDARD then L-band is not a D-band. Next time, since you are frequency “EXPERT”, please specify the standard.

 

Yes...the number of blades often depends on whether or not Mode S diversity is in play on their transponder.

So, now you are admitting I was right. But, not before you trashed me. That is not nice Iguana.

 

I am not an expert. I am enthusiast who likes reading and learning about military aviation.

[SuperKungFu]

Also, i think those are old pictures. The Mig-29 and the Su-27 pic, someone showed a pic of that in the same progress sometime during mid June. They should be at least a little more into the models unless they decided to halt it and build the Su-25 or work on Black Shark.

[Guest IguanaKing]

OMG Hajduk...you are digging an even deeper hole for yourself!!! :megalol:

 

If you had ANY experience in the REAL WORLD you would know what I'm talking about, instead of trying to berate me with your "book" knowledge. LOL. :megalol:

 

The actual situation is that NATO classifications changed...and I don't know when they changed. But, in the REAL-WORLD 1 GHz to 2 GHz is, TO ME AND MANY OTHERS WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW IT WORKS, is L-Band. You want to cry about a name? Again...lets discuss frequency...and then we can discuss antenna theory. Let's discuss things you might actually know about...as opposed to your obvious lack of knowledge of terminology. Heh..it never ceases to amaze me how a google-searcher can never seem to be called on his BS. Hajduk, STOP...LISTEN...LEARN!!!