BRD-DS ‘Raven’ Review - The Man & The Machine

[Fubarbrickdust]

LOL, If he don't point I still seem only a "X-55" throttle there. :thumbup:

 

Ahaa! You'll have to check out the thread I'll throw up regarding the mods I've done to this X-55. During my research into such things I've noticed you're quite active on the 'homebrew' threads - I reckon you'll raise an eyebrow :thumbup:

[Brewnix]

Heya Brewnix,

 

Eagle eyed spot there. Your quite right, the handles are extended (50mm using alu box tube). In answer to your question, it greatly increases the available precision - the extension in height naturally increases the size of the arc and length of travel for the handles. That particular mod has two benefits - the buttons/switches directly beneath the right throttle are now a lot more accessible in use...one of a number of things that always niggled me with the X-55.

 

As for the other question - Yes, I can certainly up some images and give some details on the mods, although, they are quite extensive and many of which aren't immediately obvious from the photo. It probably warrants a little thread of its own (not to derail this one) so I'll do just that on Monday when I'm at home. I'll fire a link up here when it's done.

 

Nice.. I would be interested in how you attached the tubing to the base and the handles. I have a modded X55 too! I was hoping the precision in the throttle was one of gained attributes. Personally I thought I was all done with my Franken throttle now I got another project to do. So a few pics if you have time would be cool. Either way would be awesome Thanks!

[Chic]

I gotta wait till next production cycle for the BRD-N cyclic before I can put order in. Looks like it's well worth the wait. Forgot to ask Baur if he is working on a collective. Anybody have any insight into this?

[Sokol1_br]

I believe that Baur are not working in collective, but in their forum (avia-sim.ru) you can talk with U053 that make (per order) a interesting collective with multiple disk brake instead friction.

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=630&start=1080#p29109

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=630&start=1020#p28535

 

Brakes based on this (Mi-8 ?):

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=4143

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=4141

 

Although Ka-50 "lookalike", can have throttle on twist grip for "old school" helis.

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=6583

Edited March 13, 2017 by Sokol1_br

[Chic]

Thanks. Will check it out.

[Fubarbrickdust]

Hi, Awesome job on the throttle. I am curious about throttle handles. Am I correct there are extension on the handles? And the action how does it compare to stock height. Do you feel you have better throttle control? Maybe you have PICs as you modded the throttle?

 

Thanks!

 

LOL, If he don't point I still seem only a "X-55" throttle there. :thumbup:

 

Nice.. I would be interested in how you attached the tubing to the base and the handles. I have a modded X55 too! I was hoping the precision in the throttle was one of gained attributes. Personally I thought I was all done with my Franken throttle now I got another project to do. So a few pics if you have time would be cool. Either way would be awesome Thanks!

 

Here you go gents, all the info is here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=184572

[Baur]

Update! New photos :)

[Baur]

And further :)

[Red Yeti]

And further :)

 

Hello Baur, what kind of grip is it on the 3rd picture?

[hansangb]

Look like a Virpil stick? I think I read that there was going to be some collaboration between BRD and Virpil

[SACG_Yeti]

I've got a BRD-DS with a KG-13 grip. I'm looking for a quality modern stick, but if I could use my BRD base, nothing would be better than that. Any news on if it will be compatible with the Virpil T-50 stick?

[Sokol1_br]

You need this new pole that make BRD base compatible with Warthog/Cougar grips - the upper part there:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=169682&d=1506252991

 

Since T50 grip use the same "Warthog connector" with PS2 plug rest check if your actual USB controller is compatible with Shift Register CD4021B.

 

Alternatively, I guest that Debolesis can create a "Warthog connector" adapter for your BRD to be printed in Shapeways, like he did for several grips.

[rel4y]

Alternatively, I guest that Debolesis can create a "Warthog connector" adapter for your BRD to be printed in Shapeways, like he did for several grips.

 

That is what I am trying to do as well. But I am sadly missing some dimensions.. I need the depth of the "star shaped" cutout on top, or more precisely the distance between the flat top surface and the plastic suface of the mini DIN PS2 connector, where the contacts plug in. If any of you guys could help me out it would be much appreciated, I will upload the result to shapeways anyway.

 

Edited October 1, 2017 by rel4y

[Red Yeti]

Look like a Virpil stick? I think I read that there was going to be some collaboration between BRD and Virpil

 

I was hoping that's the VKB handle. The VipRil handle has the same number of keys as the Warthog grip and no analog axes. No need to replace it. :-(

 

Does anyone know if there is a way to use the VKB MCG-Pro grip on the BRD 4,5? Sokol1_br maybe?

[hansangb]

I thought it had analogs *if* you don't use the WH base. I'm pretty sure I read that in the Virpil thread. So it wasn't a one for one replacement to WH stick. It *can* be, but it doesn't have to be.

[Red Yeti]

I thought it had analogs *if* you don't use the WH base. I'm pretty sure I read that in the Virpil thread. So it wasn't a one for one replacement to WH stick. It *can* be, but it doesn't have to be.

 

You sure you don't mean the brake lever?

"* Analog brake lever will operate as a digital button on these bases."

[Sokol1_br]

Does anyone know if there is a way to use the VKB MCG-Pro grip on the BRD 4,5? Sokol1_br maybe?

 

Highly improbable, MCG PRO electronics/code is compatible only with VKB bases and "VKB" will don't tell their secrets for the... "bandits". :D

 

VKB MCG grips are individual "entities" with internal microcontroller circuit that manage buttons/HAT and AXES through proprietary code/connectors, other joysticks grip circuits (diode matrix, shift register) manage only buttons/HAT (that are just buttons grouped).

 

I guess that for Baur & VirPil partnership will be easy make T50 grip analog brake work in BRD bases, as well their could implement an mini-stick in this grip in future versions.

[Red Yeti]

Highly improbable, MCG PRO electronics/code is compatible only with VKB bases and "VKB" will don't tell their secrets for the... "bandits". :D

 

VKB MCG grips are individual "entities" with internal microcontroller circuit that manage buttons/HAT and AXES through proprietary code/connectors, other joysticks grip circuits (diode matrix, shift register) manage only buttons/HAT (that are just buttons grouped).

 

I guess that for Baur & VirPil partnership will be easy make T50 grip analog brake work in BRD bases, as well their could implement an mini-stick in this grip in future versions.

 

 

That's a pity. :-(

I hope VirPil will add more features to their grip.

The controller from Baur has some unused inputs for additional axes. That shouldn't become a bottleneck. :-)

 

Thank you Sokol1_br

[Baur]

Yes, it's a T-50 stick.

 

What is the VKB MCG-Pro stick? How many people bought it? There are customer reviews?

You need to wait until it appears on the market.

[Baur]

I guess that for Baur & VirPil partnership will be easy make T50 grip analog brake work in BRD bases, as well their could implement an mini-stick in this grip in future versions.

YES, it will be done ... in the future.

[Baur]

That is what I am trying to do as well.

I make this part from metal. I do not trust plastic such loads.

 

BRD-DS

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8594

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8595

 

 

BRD-N

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8536

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8537

[SACG_Yeti]

I make this part from metal. I do not trust plastic such loads.

 

BRD-DS

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8594

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8595

 

 

BRD-N

 

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8536

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=8537

Hi, Baur. I've had your BRD-DS for 1,5 years now, and I absolutely love it.

 

Is it possible to buy the warthog connector part from you, and get the T-50 work with your base now? I don't need the analog brake lever.

 

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[Baur]

Do you want to change your joystick? Or get a new one?

I do not understand :)

[rel4y]

I know you make these parts from metal, but so does laser sintering on shapeways.

 

He wants to buy this warthog adapter from you. http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=889&sid=5297e62c09512bf8300e1b418937e849&start=45#p30890

[SACG_Yeti]

Do you want to change your joystick? Or get a new one?

I do not understand :)

I want to buy a new T-50 grip and use it with my old BRD-DS base.

 

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