Danger close

[AMEDooley]

So I'm doing the day time danger close mission and all I get the first two targets destroyed and am tasked with taking out an APC with mavericks. I ensure that I'm parallel with the friendly troops and I fire off my maverick. I hit the correct target and I still some how hit blue forces. Are they moving close to the target?

[Sabre-TLA]

Yes you have to watch for the splash damage of the Maverick.

 

The friendly forces should be marked on the TAD with a Green Cross.

 

You can use the guns to take out the target which gives you much better control over the collateral damage when in a danger close scenario.

 

If I recall the Blue Forces are hold up in the farm building complex but the walls don't give them any cover from the effects of the maverick if the target is splashed when close to them.

 

Try hitting the target when it's at the far west side of the building (furthest away from the Blue Forces) but I can't recall if using the mav still impacts the Blue Forces or not.

[AMEDooley]

Thanks I'll try and let you know

[Precog]

Yep... Don't use the suggested weapons

[AMEDooley]

Yeah that seemed to work. Thanks for the help

[sze5003]

Not sure what I did wrong but made my way through to the last jtac, jaguar. I'm told to contact him so I fly to adder and anchor there. While I'm contacting jaguar a call comes in blue on blue terminate. I'm pretty sure I didn't hit anyone but the infantry with the mk82. If I had I'm sure the call would have come in sooner to terminate. This happened twice so far and looking at the misison log I see the Humvee, jaguar was hit by infantry Russian troops via ak-47.

 

Is there a time frame I have to get the last target with the Maverick ? I'm well within my 15 min VUL.

[Sabre-TLA]

No there is only the vul period time limit.

 

We just checked the mission and the Jaguar units have Invisible(ON) so they should not be targeted.

 

Is it reproducible? Try flying the mission again and if it still continues try a DCS Repair or re-install the campaign module and report back. It could be something changed recently in the game engine to break that trigger.

[sze5003]

No there is only the vul period time limit.

 

We just checked the mission and the Jaguar units have Invisible(ON) so they should not be targeted.

 

Is it reproducible? Try flying the mission again and if it still continues try a DCS Repair or re-install the campaign module and report back. It could be something changed recently in the game engine to break that trigger.

 

I uninstalled the campaign and reinstalled it. Still having this issue, but I think one of the triggers may be broken. What happens is this:

 

I finish with Pinpoint's targets. Fly back to Adder and anchor. FE tells me contact Badger. I finish off Badger's targets with the Mk82's. This time I aim for the middle section of the troops on both sides.

 

All targets are killed. I am told no more tasking, good to depart so I fly back to Adder and anchor. FE tells me to contact Jaguar. I contact Jaguar and right after the pilot's voice says we are available for tasking, the FE tells me playtime is over, time to Egress.

 

Normally I would just continue, set up my target in the TGP and continue talking to JTAC so I can complete the rest of the engagement.

 

But I notice the JTAC comms menu item is gone after the FE says playtime is over.

 

I never got any warning that there are 2 minutes left and targets still around which usually occurs if you take too long. Its impossible that the 15 minutes for Jaguar is over already since I just contacted him.

 

This has happened each time I have flown this mission so far. Attached track where you can see right after I'm told to contact jaguar that the FE says playtime is over and the JTAC menu is gone.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vz2bjahr45wz201/tqt3.trk?dl=0

 

Edit: Also tried a repair and cleanup operation and it still persists. On 2.5 open beta latest.

Edited February 24, 2018 by sze5003

[Sabre-TLA]

Thanks for the report. We will retest and see if we can reproduce it.

[ESzczesniak]

I too am having this issue with Jaguar. I have reinstalled the campaign and am on 2.5 OB with the latest version. Anchor at Adder and contact Jaguar. Told there is a type 2 and I say to send the 9-lone. I then get an “abort, abort, abort”, told VUL is over and RTB.

[sze5003]

I too am having this issue with Jaguar. I have reinstalled the campaign and am on 2.5 OB with the latest version. Anchor at Adder and contact Jaguar. Told there is a type 2 and I say to send the 9-lone. I then get an “abort, abort, abort”, told VUL is over and RTB.

I think it is a bug with 2.5. Sabre will take a look. I managed to pass it by just following the FE's instructions to egress. So as long as you don't get an abort call, when you are waiting for jaguar and the FE says vul is over just go to egress point and land. You should pass, it told me all targets destroyed despite not getting anything from jaguar.

[Nansaram]

Not sure what I did wrong but made my way through to the last jtac, jaguar. I'm told to contact him so I fly to adder and anchor there. While I'm contacting jaguar a call comes in blue on blue terminate. I'm pretty sure I didn't hit anyone but the infantry with the mk82. If I had I'm sure the call would have come in sooner to terminate. This happened twice so far and looking at the misison log I see the Humvee, jaguar was hit by infantry Russian troops via ak-47.

 

Is there a time frame I have to get the last target with the Maverick ? I'm well within my 15 min VUL.

 

Almost 2 years have passed, I got same problem.

In campaign mission, just contacting Jaguar and soon blue on blue terminated.

I see with tacview that jaguar was hit by infantry.

But I passed practice mission with no problem just before.

[Nansaram]

I passed this mission with second try.

I got truck before blue on blue termination call. But still Jaguar attacked by enemy with Tacview review.

[Sabre-TLA]

The blue on blue calls are usually due to blue being killed or damaged by a blue weapon so before you launch a maverick or some other weapon consider the weapons effects on it's detonation.

 

If the blue party is in the range of the weapon effects (ie splash damage) it could be damaged by your weapon resulting in the blue on blue call.

 

As the pilot you do not have to agree with the JTAC on the weapon used if it will harm the JTAC party.

 

The mission is only concerned that the targets are eliminated, not by using a particular weapon.

 

It could be the splash damage of some of the weapons has increased over time but given the above consideration you should still be able to pass the mission.

 

We will retest in 2.5.6 to see if it has changed dramatically and will adjust the triggers if necessary.