Rammit Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Will the pitch instability during transition, and some of the lateral instability described at high bank angles and high AoA be reproduced? It seems like part of the charm of the Harrier is its ability to turn around and kill you, it would be a shame if it were too tame Many thanks "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
Buzzles Posted August 7, 2017 Posted August 7, 2017 Have you watched the videos of the WIP that Razbam have put out? Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
Rammit Posted August 7, 2017 Author Posted August 7, 2017 I have, but in the NATOPS (or what ever the USMC designates their aircraft manuals) some of the more extreme AoA situations in the transition result in some pretty nasty situations: On a STO, the angle of attack shall not be greater than 15° Over rotation or high rotational rates may result in the AOA rising uncontrollably even with stick full forward Things like this as far as I know haven't been shown so far "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
DZShizzam Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 I have, but in the NATOPS (or what ever the USMC designates their aircraft manuals) some of the more extreme AoA situations in the transition result in some pretty nasty situations: Things like this as far as I know haven't been shown so far Not trying to be rude here, but RAZBAM wouldn't screw around with a Harrier module if they intended to ignore such a crucial aspect of the Harrier legacy. The Harrier is infamous for being dangerous in VTOL situations, and I have no doubt that RAZBAM will model this. I'm sure that it may not be 100% accurate at first, but rest assured that in a few months Nevada and Georgia will be covered with flaming Harrier wrecks.
joey45 Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 And also flaming wrecks of carriers.:joystick: The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Rammit Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 Not trying to be rude here, but RAZBAM wouldn't screw around with a Harrier module if they intended to ignore such a crucial aspect of the Harrier legacy. The Harrier is infamous for being dangerous in VTOL situations, and I have no doubt that RAZBAM will model this. I'm sure that it may not be 100% accurate at first, but rest assured that in a few months Nevada and Georgia will be covered with flaming Harrier wrecks. Oh no I completely understand mate, I was simply asking because I'm not sure I've ever seen such unique instability in DCS at all. Some of the aerodynamic idiosyncrasies like rolling in the hover resulting in jet blast hitting the higher wing and inducing an uncontrollable roll makes me question if its even possible in the AFM at all. Don't take this as a criticism, I'm extremely excited to see what the Harrier is like and its more of a fascination of what might be done with it than doubting the quality of it, its truly going to be groundbreaking if/when all of the nasty habits of the airframe are introduced "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
flyingscotsman Posted August 10, 2017 Posted August 10, 2017 Looks like we need to practice our ejection drills then, there were a few piled in on finals at RAF Wittering and that was not even hovering
Rammit Posted August 10, 2017 Author Posted August 10, 2017 I know for a fact my CTRL and E keys will be getting worn down with the Harrier. Our (RAF/RN) Harrier loss rates paled in comparison to our USMC colleagues' "If the MWS didn't see it, it didn't happen"
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