baltic_dragon Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 I've been trying to build a campaign mission based on SEAD in the latest version of 2.1, but stumbled across several problems: ROE: quite often AI set to ONLY DESIGNATED will not attack at all, the ROE has to be on WEAPONS FREE or PRIORITY DESIGNATED. Number if missiles fired: no matter what setting I use in "ATTACK UNIT" task, the AI will only shoot one missile per flight, sometimes reattacking, sometimes not (even if all the targets are not destroyed). AGM-88C performance: on avarage only one missile out of 4 shot will hit the target. I know that some are just fired on the same radar and it is normal that later ones won't hit, but some are perfectly legit and still hit short of targets. AI dumbness: while first salvo will be shot at stand - off range, the subsequent ones quite often are at point blank range, which leads to unnecessary casualties of the SEAD flight. I will try to post some quick sample mission as soon as I get to my laptop. I used German Tornadoes set to PASSIVE DEFENCE (reaction to threat). Anyone else experienced this? For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Grimes Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 It appears that AI with the SEAD task need to be able to detect their target when the "Attack Unit" tasking is given. Try changing it to "Search and Engage" which may yield better results. Probably a bug. As for the AGM-88 performance I'd probably need to know other factors to properly test it. Even just a stripped down version of just the sams and the SEAD flight. In one of my tests the Tornado fired pretty much beyond Rmax, I have no clue why, and both missiles missed. Every other test where it engaged it fired well within range and the missiles hit. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
baltic_dragon Posted August 13, 2017 Author Posted August 13, 2017 Thanks Grimes!I will post a simplified version of the mission for you to see. The AGM-88 not hitting may be because the first one already destroyed the intended target, not sure. Will try with Searh and Engage. Guess my biggest problem is being unable to make the AI shoot a salvo of several missiles - did that work for you? For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Grimes Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Thanks Grimes!I will post a simplified version of the mission for you to see. The AGM-88 not hitting may be because the first one already destroyed the intended target, not sure. Will try with Searh and Engage. Guess my biggest problem is being unable to make the AI shoot a salvo of several missiles - did that work for you? Yeah it did when I used search and engage and attack unit with the target detected at task assignment. I did the test with a single unit in the flight. I'll test out 2-4 aircraft in a flight later. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
baltic_dragon Posted August 16, 2017 Author Posted August 16, 2017 I tested and indeed search & engage helps. It didn't help with the accuracy though - I had 4 2-ship flights with HARMs coming at the same time and only 2 out of 16 missiles hit the target... For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Gierasimov Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 In one of my missions, I had a pair of F-18 with AGM-88s. I used "Attack Unit". 1. Attack unit - Search radar. 2. Attack Unit track radar. Both Hornets engaged firing two missiles each, one per target. Both radars destroyed. One thing - it seems that pilot SKILL setting affects attack outcome. I set mine to Excellent. Intel Ultra 9 285K :: ROG STRIX Z890-A GAMING WIFI :: Kingston Fury 64GB :: MSI RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio :: VKB Gunfighter MK.III MCG Ultimate :: VPC MongoosT-50 CM3 :: non-VR :: single player :: open beta
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