nwagtmustang Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I have done searches on this forum and watched you tube videos. Usually the answer is a certain switch is not thrown or ils panel is not powered. That's not the problem. I have been away from dcs a10 for over 6 months. From what I remember I did not have any problems with ils landings. Anyway I do the ils training mission. When I turn to the runway heading and get close the vertical needle shows up. The red flags for vertical and horizontal disappears but I do not get the horizontal yellow bar. It's not even sitting at the bottom l8ke it is supposed to waiting to pick up the signal. I then do a free flight and find the closest airport with ils. Ils is powered on. Right frequency tuned. I throw the switch from showed to power under the hsi. I click the ils button under the hsi which illuminates green. All I get is the 2 red flags. I did this multiple times approaching the airport from different directions to see if I get any of the needles to show up. I have not done any mods to dcs world or the modules. I have it installed on a ssd which is drive f. I have tried the repair tool. I know I have to be missing something. Like I said it was working over 6 months ago. I recently did a clean install of Windows due to other problems with the computer and that was a week ago. Unless i can figure it out or someone can give me a hint i will reinstall dcs.
kylekatarn720 Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 If you can provide a track of your free flight, i can imitiate what you do tonight on my pc and see what happens Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
nwagtmustang Posted October 25, 2017 Author Posted October 25, 2017 I will try it again and provide you with a track. Thank you.
Nooch Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) I throw the switch from showed to power under the hsi. You mean this switch? If you did then that's correct, you need to unstow the steering bars. It's a tiny switch and it's quite easy to forget. Edited October 25, 2017 by Nooch [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RyboPops Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Are you sure that you selected ILS on the NMSP panel? Edited October 26, 2017 by RyboPops I'm dumb
nwagtmustang Posted October 26, 2017 Author Posted October 26, 2017 I did select ils. So I did the training mission again. No luck with ils. I then did free flight and for one airport that had ils, it begins with a k did not work. Then I flew to batumi and it worked. I also created a mission and batumi w9rked again. So one airport that has ils is not working and for some reason the ils training mission does not work. However now that I know for the most part it works I am satisfied. Thank you all who replied.
Nooch Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) It seems there are some issue with the current ILS system. Sometimes it behaves weirdly. Edit: I am only talking for 1.5.7 as I have not tested 2.1 yet. Edited October 26, 2017 by Nooch [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RyboPops Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 That must be a 1.5.7 thing. I haven't noticed any issues on 2.1, although I admittedly don't fly ILS approaches all that often.
Nooch Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 If it's only a 1.5.7 issue then it shouldn't remain for too long as it will probably be fixed with the new Caucasus map. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Tinkickef Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Worked fine for me on NTTR last weekend, well apart from the glideslope bar having a mind of its own. I am not wanting to tell you how to suck eggs but you are sure the ILS power was on and you were tuned to the correct runway? The unstow switch was to the left? You heard morse in your headset as you got close to the airbase? The EGI steerpoint bug coincided with the course bar? Edited October 26, 2017 by Tinkickef System spec: i9 9900K, Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 RAM, Corsair M.2 NVMe 1Tb Boot SSD. Seagate 1Tb Hybrid mass storage SSD. ASUS RTX2080TI Dual OC, Thermaltake Flo Riing 360mm water pumper, EVGA 850G3 PSU. HP Reverb, TM Warthog, Crosswind pedals, Buttkicker Gamer 2.
nwagtmustang Posted October 26, 2017 Author Posted October 26, 2017 Yes. Powered on. Speaking of nttr. What is the ils frequency for that?
Tinkickef Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Only one I can remember offhand is Tonopah test runway 32 which is 111.70 which is the last I used ILS on. System spec: i9 9900K, Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Ultra motherboard, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 RAM, Corsair M.2 NVMe 1Tb Boot SSD. Seagate 1Tb Hybrid mass storage SSD. ASUS RTX2080TI Dual OC, Thermaltake Flo Riing 360mm water pumper, EVGA 850G3 PSU. HP Reverb, TM Warthog, Crosswind pedals, Buttkicker Gamer 2.
elmo Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 In my experience with the ils in the caucus map! It can be very temperamental..... I find with all the necessary prep done.... approaching the airfield 10miles out at 2000ft with a gradual entry into the glide slope at 180 knots is usually enough to get the bar's into action.... I find if you fly the bar's in a perfect cross all the way to the threshold for me it brings you in to high!..... I prefer to just put the fpm (vvi) on the threshold with a 3° glide slope all the way down.:thumbup:
Tango Lima Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) You mean this switch? If you did then that's correct, you need to unstow the steering bars. It's a tiny switch and it's quite easy to forget. This is Pitch and Bank Bar not for Localiser and Glide slope If you press ILS and ILS capture the Pitch and Bar will be out of view as explained in the document. The Glide slope deviation is in the ADI the small white bar left top/bottom, localizer is the deviation bar on the HSI Edited October 30, 2017 by Thomas Loeffelmann
drPhibes Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 I find if you fly the bar's in a perfect cross all the way to the threshold for me it brings you in to high!..... How high? With a 3° GP angle your height above the ground when crossing the threshold should be around 15-20m (45-60-ish feet). The GP aiming point is usually 3-400m from the threshold, depending on the RWY length.
Frederf Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 ILS approach should terminate no later than 200' above the TDZ. Thus the last ~16 seconds are done visually at minimum. ILS will seem high compared to a purely visual approach. As Thomas says, the yellow steering bars are not the primary ILS position indicators. You cannot know your position in the ILS beam from looking at the yellow bars.
fjacobsen Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 In DCS the ILS is only active for the "active" runway. The active runway depends on wind direction. So if You have RWY 09/27 with ILS' for both direction and the wind comes from the west, then only the ILS for RWY27 will be available. On airports where ILS only is available for one runway direction - let´s say RWY27 (No ILS for RWY09 at installed) and the wind comes from the east, no ILS will then be available, since RWY09 is now the active. This is not realistic, but still the way DCS simulates ILS' | i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 12GB | 1x1TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 1x2TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 2x2TB SATA SSD | 1x2TB HDD 7200 RPM | Win10 Home 64bit | Meta Quest 3 |
drPhibes Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 There is nothing unrealistic about that. Whatever happens to the ILS on a reciprocal runway when the active runway direction changes is up to the procedures decided by the local ANSP and/or airport. The norm is to have an interlock switch in the TWR that disables the ILS on the non-active RWY direction when you switch between them.
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