Anyone running DCS on M.2 SSD?

[easyrider_svk]

i even sacrified a 64GB ssd to have swap file on it. boosted the pc rating. now my 4.4 GHz cpu is the slowest part of the system. lol

[Brainless]

I will use this thread to ask something. If I move my OS and DCS to new m.2 SSD, do I need to reactivate all DCS modules?

[BitMaster]

I will use this thread to ask something. If I move my OS and DCS to new m.2 SSD, do I need to reactivate all DCS modules?

 

no, unless you have changed hardware before and the SSD will be the tipping point to deactivate your hardware as you have then changed too many components over time since activation, like a GPU 3 month ago, more RAM 5 month ago, etc... that all adds up until you reach the max points allowed until you loose an activation.

 

If you changed hw before, better deactivate them

[Brainless]

Only SSD change. These crazy RAM prices can not convince me to upgrade. I can wait for better times.

[Johnny_Rico]

Myself because I buy PC stuff most of the year, christmas is most expensive time of ear, summer is cheapest

[Pilotasso]

In normal use the M.2 feels about 30% faster than a SATA SSD. However when your moving large files around or editing it becomes second to none.

 

Currently most games are single threaded bound when unpacking game files and THAT becomes your bottleneck, not the SSD. When optimizations are made then you'll see significant differences (in both SATA and M.2. however the later just runs away ahead then because of bandwith headroom)

 

They are doing this for star citizen but for DCS I dont think well see changes there any time soon.

[gholi]

David OC

Just for Hobby,I can tell you I caught a virus to build every 6 month a new computer in various case and I will build better than these two on the photos I am building by my technical man 2 other Platforms on I7 8700k and I have setup a private computer workshop for watercooling but i did not try to sell any of these because my real job is somthing else ,I will see ,if I decide to do for business it would be just for creating job because I am not intersted by the profit on those PC,as I make more money on my real job

[BitMaster]

David OC

Just for Hobby,I can tell you I caught a virus to build every 6 month a new computer in various case and I will build better than these two on the photos I am building by my technical man 2 other Platforms on I7 8700k and I have setup a private computer workshop for watercooling but i did not try to sell any of these because my real job is somthing else ,I will see ,if I decide to do for business it would be just for creating job because I am not intersted by the profit on those PC,as I make more money on my real job

 

Nice job, tho I personally prefer soft tubes, external radioators of BIG size and Koolance QC everywhere to quickly take it apart.

 

Maybe your next built will have a MoRa3 ??

 

I killed 3 top tier boards lately, Asus and MSI, since then I moved back by 1 step or two, less features but they seem to work better. Does your ME work flawless ? I had 2 of those and had to RMA them both for various errors.

 

You have good luck, 5.2/5.3 on a 7700k is great ! Mine only runs up to 5.1 ( still not delidded ).

 

Those 8700k's, oh boy, either I had damn good luck or the 8th series is superior in general. 1.325V is good to go for 5.2 and 82°C max p95_26.6. Still to be delidded too.

 

Again, nice machine(s) !

[Johnny Dioxin]

I have 1.5 on an 850evo SSD and 2.2 on a Crucial M2 525GB SSD. Both run well, but micro-stutters in VR are a regular feature (though it was all fine to start with).

 

I run P3Dv3 on the 850 and v4 on the M2 and v3 runs far better with framerates averaging well over 100. v4 stutters quite a bit.

 

NTTR runs smooth as silk on the M2, but have performance issues in Normandy (all in VR) so it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, really.

Have to say, I'm really pleased I got the M2, especially as my Asus Z97 mobo only has 4 SATA slots, 3 of which have 850 ssd on them.

[gholi]

Thanks BitMaster,

 

what you 're waiting for delidding your CPU,you are in Germany so you can buy a Delid kit from caseking and do it if your processor hits 5.1 then once delidded you can hit probably 5.2 at 1.37x

 

I already bought delid -mate 1 and 2 if I remember the name of casekings kits well and keep me posted once delidded about your result BUT COOLING IS VERY IMPORTANT and a nice watercooling makes your computer as an esthetical object and it gives you the desire to show your computer and put it on a table not Under the table

[BitMaster]

My caseking delid kit is on BACK ORDER, he said "maybe in 1-2 weeks, but cant promise"..hence why. Got all the rest, thermal grizzly kryo and conductonaut + silicon, just the postman again, lazy bastard :megalol:

[BitMaster]

Thanks BitMaster,

 

what you 're waiting for delidding your CPU,you are in Germany so you can buy a Delid kit from caseking and do it if your processor hits 5.1 then once delidded you can hit probably 5.2 at 1.37x

 

I already bought delid -mate 1 and 2 if I remember the name of casekings kits well and keep me posted once delidded about your result BUT COOLING IS VERY IMPORTANT and a nice watercooling makes your computer as an esthetical object and it gives you the desire to show your computer and put it on a table not Under the table

 

Esthetics are a matter of personal preferences. I define a rig's esthetics by it's very nature and purpose.

My PC is a tool, a weapon if you like, and the only beauty it got is through what she really is, a Computer with tubing, wires and cables going everywhere, only arranged to fulfill the compromise-free tool need, plain nothing else. Effective and as sleek as possible, hence the weapon aspect, leave away what is fuzzy, concentrate on reliability and maintenance friendly

arrangements inside, that has it's very own beauty, like a MiG-21 or Corsair F4-U,a woman could never understand this, my next door buddy, a car mechanic and OC fanatic sure does, Prost :drunk:

 

A nice "tool" in common sense is my MBP, that is nice, even for my wife ;)

 

Mine, is a brutal calculation monster that better clocks 1 Hz higher than putting lip stick on.

LED's dont make it faster, more reliable or anything like that. so do hard tubes, they only make it harder to work with, I woud never put looks above functionality, the weapon idea is prominent :gun_smilie:

[gholi]

Esthetics are a matter of personal preferences. I define a rig's esthetics by it's very nature and purpose.

My PC is a tool, a weapon if you like, and the only beauty it got is through what she really is, a Computer with tubing, wires and cables going everywhere, only arranged to fulfill the compromise-free tool need, plain nothing else. Effective and as sleek as possible, hence the weapon aspect, leave away what is fuzzy, concentrate on reliability and maintenance friendly

arrangements inside, that has it's very own beauty, like a MiG-21 or Corsair F4-U,a woman could never understand this, my next door buddy, a car mechanic and OC fanatic sure does, Prost :drunk:

 

A nice "tool" in common sense is my MBP, that is nice, even for my wife ;)

 

Mine, is a brutal calculation monster that better clocks 1 Hz higher than putting lip stick on.

LED's dont make it faster, more reliable or anything like that. so do hard tubes, they only make it harder to work with, I woud never put looks above functionality, the weapon idea is prominent :gun_smilie:

everyone has their point of view that-do you want me to tell you

I hit 5.3 with no AVX with I7 8700k

[gholi]

I just wanted to say every one has it's own point of view,what do want me to tell you

[BitMaster]

There are different ways to look at Computers, that's all :) no bad feelings attached.

 

5.3 with no AVX Offset and Prime95 with AVX or tested without AVX usage ?

 

Anyway, 5.3 is a landmark, wow.

[gholi]

Hi BitMaster,

I will publish all tests with the heavy duty custom watercooling soon because with the second processesor I7 8700k we hit 5.4,I don't my self beleave my eyes with 10 hours OCCT 4.51 (Larrge Data)on bench ,now have to finish them final assmebly in their cases

If you ask me why all these computers I will reply I caught a virus ,I don't know myself maybe later on all these lead to a biger project

[BitMaster]

WTF LOL FIVE point FOUR !!! Jesus and Maria, that's beyond.

 

My damn delid kit is still on back order :(

 

I may need to rework mine, one o my USB sticks keeps blipping...usually a VCCIO too high/low or LLC...will see after delid.

 

I pushed watercool couple days ago to send Kyle from hardOCP that HK-IV_TR now.

The unavailability of that block was one of my show stopper for the 1950x, I kind of regret it since the TR4 is the better socket for the future, this 1151/8700k is that last of its kind I guess.

 

Which pump ( L/min ) and Radiator are u using ? 5.4 needs some serious cooling, delidded or not.

[BitMaster]

btw, what is OCCT 4.51 ?

[Johnny_Rico]

http://www.ocbase.com/

[BitMaster]

Thanks ! :thumbsup:

 

Ahh, OK, never read about that one before in all those OC reviews. Anyway, downloading it to check it out ;)

[BitMaster]

nice tool indeed, did a quicky on 5.2 with lower Phase Control (standard) and 120% Current Capability instead of 140% but same time upped the Vcore to 1.3875v and LLC from 2 to 3 which gave lower overall temps and...stability.

 

OK, 15min is not a final statement, but a step ahead.

 

Those pics are real useful too for the aftermath.

 

Trying to lower vCore now even more, maybe can even lower Phase and Current too by only leaving LLC on 3 instead of 2. Many many dials to turn and you gotta do it all to know what works...and what NOT :)

 

 

Happy Overclocking !

 

There should be a World Overclocker Day !

 

not bad at all for a non-delid CPU

[gholi]

Hi Bit Master,

the case used is INWIN 909 because of the shortage with HEGX GEAR R80 and PARVUM L.10

Radiatiors EK 360 SE 2 each

everthing else come from BITSPOWER Taiwan including 2 pumps,fitting,reservoir 2 each 250

even graphic card's waterblock

The batch number of I7 8700k is L730C402 it is a golden batch amongest 1% the batch number is highly important ,if you Google this batch you'll see other people also hitted 5.3 or 5.4 then it is a matter of cooling of course,how you cool all these components

[gholi]

Hi Bit Master,

the case used is INWIN 909 because of the shortage with HEGX GEAR R80 and PARVUM L.10

Radiatiors EK 360 SE 2 each

everthing else come from BITSPOWER Taiwan including 2 pumps,fitting,reservoir 2 each 250

even graphic card's waterblock

The batch number of I7 8700k is L731C402 it is a golden batch amongest 1% the batch number is highly important ,if you Google this batch you'll see other people also hitted 5.3 or 5.4 then it is a matter of cooling of course,how you cool all these components

[gholi]

made a mistake on first message on typing the batch N°The correct batch N) is l731c402

[Brainless]

I switched from 850 EVO 500GB to 960 EVO 1TB. The system is cloned and converted from MBR to GPT. I'm lazy to do a comprehensive comparison, but here are some numbers:

 

Power on to desktop:

950 EVO 500GB - 23.45s

960 EVO 1TB - 21.90s

 

DCS: Mig-21 Instant action->Free flight loading time:

950 EVO 500GB - 46.60s

960 EVO 1TB - 36.70s

 

Notes:

Mobo: P67 Extreme4

Slot: PCIe 2.0 x4.

I'm on Sandy Bridge and so only PCIe 2.0 is available and NVMe drive top performance is limited.