What is your method for VLanding onto the carrier?

[StandingCow]

So, I have been reading up on how to do a proper landing on the carrier.

From what I gather: 5 miles out 50 degree nozzles, at 2 miles (call the ball) 60 degrees on nozzles, keeping your "witch hat" at 0 degrees on the HUD, at about .5 you move to hover stop which is 79 degrees on nozzles, and pitch up to 10 degrees to slow down (more AOA as needed?).

 

 

 

This is probably a case of needing more practice but doing this properly isn't easy... the issue is mostly coming to a stop without gaining altitude. Earlier I was using nozzles to slow myself down, but that results in having to change thrust to compensate.

 

 

 

Reference: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj2587C__HXAhXSRt8KHbG7Au4QFggpMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f-16.net%2Fforum%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D18071&usg=AOvVaw3WwfG2ioOFgEbOCvXp3972

[David OC]

I've been looking for info on this too.

 

Good Videos for reference by the pro's :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvzvzcrctNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG_bgVvXtsk

 

 

Also RAZBAMS Harrier GR.7/GR.9 User's Manual is good, it's comes with all the checklist.

 

 

 

Reference: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwj2587C__HXAhXSRt8KHbG7Au4QFggpMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.f-16.net%2Fforum%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D18071&usg=AOvVaw3WwfG2ioOFgEbOCvXp3972

 

Thanks for this manual StandingCow, been looking for that:thumbup:

 

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Edited December 6, 2017 by David OC

[StandingCow]

I've been looking for info on this too.

 

Good Videos for reference by the pro's :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvzvzcrctNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG_bgVvXtsk

 

 

Also RAZBAMS Harrier GR.7/GR.9 User's Manual is good, it's comes with all the checklist.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this manual StandingCow, been looking for that:thumbup:

 

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He HAS to be using nozzle angle to slow down in those videos right? He doesn't pitch up at all that I can tell.

[David OC]

From what I can tell you do a normal 3 degs landing approach and come to the hover 120 feet AGL and one plane width to the left. Slide to the Right in a 50 foot hover, then cleared to land.

 

Quite sure he is using the nozzels forward, only if you need to, as the ship is at 11 knots? I would say more in the first video.

 

I guess you just want to slide up into the hover next to the boat slowly bring the nozzles to the hover, the nozzles would be a touch forward if anything to stay with the ship, otherwise if set to 82 deg you would need to be pitched forward some to keep up.

 

More practice needed....

 

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Edited December 6, 2017 by David OC

[Saltat_cum_mortem]

I've been looking for info on this too.

 

Good Videos for reference by the pro's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvzvzcrctNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG_bgVvXtsk

 

 

Also RAZBAMS Harrier GR.7/GR.9 User's Manual is good, it's comes with all the checklist.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for this manual StandingCow, been looking for that

 

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Either the Marine was doing a very rapid cross check or he wasn't happy with that landing. That was an interesting reaction when he touched down.

 

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[David OC]

Tying again in VR just now, if you get pretty close with the nozzles, then use very small amounts of pitch to control the small speed increments to hold still.

 

Well try anyway...;)

 

 

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[StandingCow]

Tying again in VR just now, if you get pretty close with the nozzles, then use very small amounts of pitch to control the small speed increments to hold still.

 

Well try anyway...;)

 

 

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Yea, I am going to try in VR as soon as 2.x version is released.

[Sephyrius]

Yea, I am going to try in VR as soon as 2.x version is released.

 

Speaking of, has anyone heard whether we can expect Harriers on the alpha client today or on Friday?

[ESAc_matador]

Muscular memory from helicopters is killing me!!! hahaha

 

I can make pretty damm good hovers in helicopters, but here... everytime i need a correction with the throttle i do the opposite!!!

 

Time, and practice!

 

I bet, with VR this should be easier... also, the lack of refs in the sea is much harder, I dont have too much problems with vertical landing in land.

[ESAc_matador]

Muscular memory from helicopters is killing me!!! hahaha

 

I can make pretty damm good hovers in helicopters, but here... everytime i need a correction with the throttle i do the opposite!!!

 

Time, and practice!

 

I bet, with VR this should be easier... also, the lack of refs in the sea is much harder, I dont have too much problems with vertical landing in land.

[cromhunt]

Depend of your Joystick/throttle/pedals pack i guess.

I do it with a warthog

Two methods working

Land with speed like a fix wing

Or

Land vertical like a helo.

For my own i do prefer concentrate on speed instead the nozzle angle.

Just adapt the power to maintain the correct descent speed i choosen and keep an eye on vertical speed

http://cromhunt.proboards.com/thread/343/dcs-world-av8b-harrier

Sure that pratices is yours,and be patient

Edited December 6, 2017 by cromhunt

[StandingCow]

Speaking of, has anyone heard whether we can expect Harriers on the alpha client today or on Friday?

 

Friday is planned per Sith, subject to change as always.

[David OC]

Another cool video, this one you can see the nozzles getting some work.

 

There is also some great shots looking through the HUD when landing.

 

Edited December 6, 2017 by David OC

[StandingCow]

Ok, just had my best landing on the carrier.. seems like 82-83 works out perfect for me.

[exray]

I've found landing on the Tarawa to be pretty easy if you don't bother with coming to a complete hover and having no regard for how it's actually supposed to be done. Just take her down slow and steady to the deck.

 

Nozzles to 84 degrees at 1-2 miles out. Flaps down, gear down, H20 to landing. You can maintain 5-10 degrees nose down to keep the deck in sight without adding much speed. When you get close, nozzles to full aft to slow down, then nose up to witch hat on horizon, nozzles to 84, and lower yourself to the deck. Be sure to slam the throttle to zero before you hit the deck, otherwise you'll bounce.

[Mumby]

Ive found that in the final moments using throttle for vertical rate only, and nozzle angle for fwd/backward speed works best for me, keeping the witches hat on the horizon. I don't use pitch/AoA at all (apart from accidentally) The hardest part I find is the horizontal transition over to the yellow line, keeping bank angle stable is.... really hard. Forward speed can be scrubbed off very quickly with the nozzles around 90+

 

Watching the youtube videos I'm surprised how quickly they initiate the horizontal transition after getting alongside. It seems like sometimes they carry some forward speed into the transition, and only match the deck speed once stabilised in the hover over the deck.

 

Very good fun I must say, well done RAZBAM.

 

Cheers

[fargo007]

I use 60 degrees on approach, up to 70 as I'm nearing, and 77 degrees to touch down at the back.

 

I practice using 3800lbs of fuel (50%) and a full ordnance load. You have to use the water at this weight.

 

Myself and another mate in the squadron were able to put one down safe with a full load of fuel and ordnance.

 

It can be done but the margin of error is extremely small.

 

Without weight, 60, 70, 77 is still my formula but it's sweated a whole lot less.

 

Also, moving ship is easier for me than still ship.

 

Hope this helps somebody.

[David OC]

Nice video - mentions 81 degrees for hover stop though? :huh:

 

This come down to the ships speed, you are not really hovering on the spot now are you, it's a little more dynamic landing on a ship moving forward at 20 knots etc.

 

Watch from the time in the link below, you can see 81deg on the HUD, you can also see him pitching to control the smaller speed increments needed to stay at the right speed and to stay on the landing spot.

 

 

 

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[StandingCow]

Yea, I have been doing it with the ship not moving due to the current bug... I think the ship moving would help out.