Missile threat sensors?

[DAZnBLAST]

Is it correct the N/A does not have an IR missile warning receiver? I believe I read somewhere the GR9 birds could detect incoming IR missiles and automatically dispense flares. I'd be surprised the N/A does not have this BAE technology, weren't the US acquired GR9's converted by the US to AV8B's?

[mvsgas]

Is it correct the N/A does not have an IR missile warning receiver? I believe I read somewhere the GR9 birds could detect incoming IR missiles and automatically dispense flares. I'd be surprised the N/A does not have this BAE technology, weren't the US acquired GR9's converted by the US to AV8B's?

 

I have not seen nor read anything indicating that it does have a missile warning system. Also, I think it is reverse, AV8B II came first and the GR5 and up are updated versions

Edited January 28, 2018 by mvsgas

[Fri13]

Is it correct the N/A does not have an IR missile warning receiver? I believe I read somewhere the GR9 birds could detect incoming IR missiles and automatically dispense flares. I'd be surprised the N/A does not have this BAE technology, weren't the US acquired GR9's converted by the US to AV8B's?

You are taking MAW what is a missiles approach warning system. A system that has IR sensors placed around to sense a missiles launch when rocket motor ignite for few seconds.

Not a 100% reliable system, doesn't know friend or foe, or air-air from surface-air and doesn't even know cannon fire from missile launch.

 

Still a nice tool in a tool box when suddenly you might get a missile detected and coming at you. Still best is to have wingman spotting missile trails.

 

 

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[Khev]

No MLWS

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=199251

[Soundwave197]

You are taking MAW what is a missiles approach warning system. A system that has IR sensors placed around to sense a missiles launch when rocket motor ignite for few seconds.

Not a 100% reliable system, doesn't know friend or foe, or air-air from surface-air and doesn't even know cannon fire from missile launch.

 

Still a nice tool in a tool box when suddenly you might get a missile detected and coming at you. Still best is to have wingman spotting missile trails.

 

The AV8B II plus has a rotary for a MAW system in the cockpit where the RWR, EXP and ECM rotarys are and sensores around the airframe.

[Zadren]

The Harrier GR7 had a Missile Approach Warning system fitted. It was situated in the radome right in the back of the tail. It was a small Doppler T/R that faced aft only.

I can't speak for the AV8 having this kit fitted, but I'm certain that the GR7 had it, because I distinctly recall bolting the thing to my jet for flight trials. :)

[Zeus67]

You are welcome to check all photographs of AV-8B NA/Plus available online. I have not detected anything remotely looking like an IR MWLS sensor, anywhere. It only has four RWR sensors, two on the tail cone and one on each wing.

[al531246]

This is the tail end of the GR.7. I don't think is a MLWS like the A-10C has but more a sensor that links in with the RWR to detect guidance commands. I can't say for certain tho.

 

[Zeus67]

This is the tail of an AV-8B N/A or Plus. You can see the RWR and the tail cone light bulb and that's it.

 

 

There are no other sensors in the tail.

 

The belly is also clean:

 

And the wings:

 

This aircraft does not have MLWS.

[Fri13]

The AV8B II plus has a rotary for a MAW system in the cockpit where the RWR, EXP and ECM rotarys are and sensores around the airframe.

 

Where exactly? As I haven't spotted that...

 

[Soundwave197]

Where exactly? As I haven't spotted that...

 

 

Thats the AV8B Nightattack and not the II plus you are showing.

Im not able to find the picture again because google pictures is flooded with razbams av8b NA xD

It might have been a Harrier GR if they have the same exact cockpit.

[Soundwave197]

It was a Harrier Gr.9 cockpit.

 

Cockpit: http://www.everettaero.com/GR9%20Sim.04.jpg

Source: http://www.everettaero.com/harrierGR9sim.html

[Fri13]

That explains it then.

 

As the Harrier is little difficult as you have two variants A and B, and then you have the British GR-line and then USMC AV-line.

 

Maybe the best simple explanation of Harrier history is this video:

 

And one of the things that was surprise was the info from this video:

 

 

Those two videos explains very well IMHO the Harrier basics and history and how much different the GR- and AV- variants really are.

[Zadren]

This is the tail end of the GR.7. I don't think is a MLWS like the A-10C has but more a sensor that links in with the RWR to detect guidance commands. I can't say for certain tho.

 

 

The MAW went in here on a GR. The small antenna sticking out of the bottom of the dome is a sidelobe suppression antenna, as the MAW was getting triggered every time the aircraft flew over a busy road and picked up moving traffic. Usually on the A1, right outside RAF Wittering. :smartass:

[Eddie]

This is the tail end of the GR.7. I don't think is a MLWS like the A-10C has

 

It isn't, it's a RADAR based MAWS, similar to that installed on Typhoon and some other aircraft. UV based systems like on the A-10C are just one of three types of MAWS (the other being IR based).

[whiteladder]

The Gr9 also carried the Terma pod on a belly station towards the end of its service, this had 5 AAR-57 mws sensors (UV) and 8 flare magazines.