TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Hi, My request is; would it be possible for multiplayer sessions, to put in place a skin download feature. Similar to what they have implemented in IL2? So many nice skins available out there, provided by the Lockon community, why not make it available for other to see, by joining a host. Example: An option might be enable on the host side to allow or prevent, such feature if the host prefers to see & fly with the originals… Some might argue that this option would allow peeps to install “invisible” skins. Note I’ve yet to see this happen on IL2, fact remains cheaters will always find ways to cheat. But taken in consideration of allowing the option of allowing or prevent downloads from the server, skin wise, then I would think, this feature would be something to exploit, would be beneficial for the community as a whole… True maybe not for BS, although I still wish it. Maybe for future projects? Anyhow, thanks for listening. Kind regards, Moose PS/Edit; Beta testers, what do you think about the idea? (I'm french so grammar, hopefully will not be and issue to get the message accross) Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
britgliderpilot Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Been suggested before - the main problem is the size of the skin files. Think the last time it was brought up, someone had the size of the files at 15Mb - which is just too much to be transferring over online play, unfortunately :( On the positive side, I can at least report that your English is just fine - better than a lot of native English speakers! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 Thanks for the heads up. I knew it was mention before, don’t recall the thread itself. But we no longer live in dark ages, 15meg, although I admit is a bit big for a download skin. Like I mentioned initially, give the host the ability to allow or prevent… This would fix the issue. Hate to see such a feature being brush off for a bandwidth issue. Would think that most users, especially flyers that fly online on HL have some sort of high speed connection, you rarely see a dialup users trying to connect… I pitty them if they try. What's the point? Dialup users should never play such a sim via the bandwith it requires for stability online...Only thing it does is to bring the flight session down, due for the lag that they implement... Thanks for your responce, Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
GGTharos Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 So what if they have a high-speed connection? 20 players log in each with their own 20mb skin ... do the math. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 So what if they have a high-speed connection? 20 players log in each with their own 20mb skin ... do the math. I have yet to see a 20 meg skin within lomac. Again, like I said initially, give the host the ability to allow or prevent download skins..., third of the same, man , still have to repeat myself, dawm, lol ;) Think off the big picture in the end. So far I see beta testers replying so limited to there own opinion, man... Do testers have imagination? I only posted this request to seek better improvement in multiplayer that we already have right now. Doing so, to give credit to skinners in this community. Shit I never heard of a 20 meg skin. If it exist, then issue is not with the community, but the ability of the skinner to trim down… Humm, Again, I repeat, give the ability to turn off the download from the host. Let him decide… In the end, I think my idea is not a big deal. Only a suggestion to improve on our multiplayer flight status. PS. You don’t need to be a beta tester to see where improvement should be implemented, reckon the community itself speak for themselves. By your math, IL2 would have died long time ago, but it's still living strong as we speak. Not that I compare apples to oranges. Math limitation is only for the one that thinks that it cannot be done. Well that's not me... I try to think outside the box. It's a suggestion, that I would think that it does merit some attention... Anyhow, S! Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
monotwix Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Skins are nice to look at (on UK's E4tv) however it's not some thing that you see in flight all the time especialy in multi players game(BVR ye?). But what would be realy nice to see in my opinion is the weather diversity and being able to assign the weather generator for the deferent regions (in FC cloud generator constantly changes clouds shape if you've noticed) just like the real thing it would make us go wow, furthermore burning objects like buildings smoke trail extended bluring in the wind would be nice to. I would certainly forget skins if i saw a raining cloud or the edge of an overcast but thats just me raining. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
Kuky Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 if you have some budies and want to use custom skins when you play with them... get all of you to modify skins yuo want and you're set :D There is no way to have 2048x2048 skins being transferred online from each player to all other others... doesn't matter what connection they have. You might be able to do it on LAN but not through internet. PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 I'm all for some weather generating, Ex: 1 corner of the map all sunshine, the other, thunderstorm. I'm all for that. I agree that, this should be implemented, but that's should be another thread... Cheers for thinking outside the box...:thumbup: Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
SuperKungFu Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I have yet to see a 20 meg skin within lomac Actually if people leave the 2048x2048 bmp skins in their temptexture folder, its 24 mb for one skin. So if you have to download all of them it might take a while for one person. And if there's a multiplayer game with more than 20 people in it, how would your computer distinguish which skin to display on your screen? ED probably have to add another folder to lock on to keep these new online skin to prevent replacing your current ones. Like you said, people can choose whether or not to have it, its a good idea but it would probably be used mainly for aerobatics. So its kinda not on the priority list. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 if you have some budies and want to use custom skins when you play with them... get all of you to modify skins yuo want and you're set :D There is no way to have 2048x2048 skins being transferred online from each player to all other others... doesn't matter what connection they have. You might be able to do it on LAN but not through internet. I beg to differ on this.... although do you think it would be nice to show pride of your squad skin online, without having all the others download via a third party url? Not to mention, I did request that the host have the ability to allow or prevent skin downloads... Edit: for me it merits some major attention. Anything to improve our flight status is a good thing... Anyhow, cheers, thanks for reading. Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 Think outside the box people...:D And GG, about your math, Seems there like 700 plus peeps still playing on IL2, 200+ dedicated server (yes. Did I say dedicated? yes, I reckon I did, even able to run a linux box) while on lomac you have average of 6 dedicated servers with max online I saw around 100 peeps max, being generous on that number. Like I sayd, I dont compare apples to oranges, I Just fly. Been doing so from the begining, look at page one of this forum. lol i'm there. I saw something that I think required our and your attentions, reason I posted it. Thats it, end of story. Ed please make it happen. Cheers Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
Prophet Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 But you are comparing apples to oranges. IL2 is not LOMAC. Not only are the skins much larger, but also the code. I think for IL2 the skins are just unit insignia and such, so much smaller.
Prophet Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Ahh, that would be good. Cause Lockonfiles already has everything. But then it would have to be in a format that the game could handle, it would have to rewrite the MEinit.xml and other files for the skins to show..... Lots of work if you ask me.
Kuky Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Il-2 skins are 512x512... but also let me point out to you that almost no one who's been playing Il-2 for a while and is quite serious about realism and good gameplay is flying with skin download enabled. While I was flyin Il-2 for over 3 years, everyone I flew with, and I flew with lots of aussie squads, we all disabled skin download. PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
britgliderpilot Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Hmmn - a modified suggestion. How about downloadable insignia textures? Say just the tailfin graphics, or a little nose art panel? 1 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
TheMoose Posted March 20, 2007 Author Posted March 20, 2007 Hmmn - a modified suggestion. How about downloadable insignia textures? Say just the tailfin graphics, or a little nose art panel? :thumbup: Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
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