[OUT OF SCOPE] Jedi Transition

[zK_RazOR]

Hello guys!

 

I boughted recently the Nevada DLC map and I started my flights this week.

 

I have one question/suggestion to developers and I'll be gratefull if it could be considered: taking off from Chreech AFB and heading west to Death Valley, I was a little bit disappointed when I saw the "Jedi Transition" at Rainbow Canyon, the place where pilots training their low level flights. It's very poor in my opinion and considering that place as a real training location of pilots, it coulded be improved this area for us, specially the depth of canyon and the road besides the Father Crowley Point.

 

What do you guys think?

 

[eliterizzo]

See my post here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=206400

[Nooch]

It's funny I see this cause we were talking about the exact same thing with a friend yesterday. We wanted to do some flying there but apparently the scenery isn't modelled in very much detail which takes away some of the fun.

[zK_RazOR]

It's funny I see this cause we were talking about the exact same thing with a friend yesterday. We wanted to do some flying there but apparently the scenery isn't modelled in very much detail which takes away some of the fun.

 

Yes, I feel the same. I flew with my A-10C to this canyon and when I finally found the place, saw the very unreal areas. I think that's no to hard to do this more accurate as possible as real because (in my mind) they only need to improve the elevation of the mountain, the deepness of the canyon and if it's not ask too much recreate the Father Point location (actually make the roads more visible to locate more easily this point). I don't think this is too hard to do or am I wrong?

[Nooch]

They did it so as to make the map smaller and avoid ending up with a 200GB download.

[ouPhrontis]

There may be a limit to what can be done, depending on how ED are making the ground, say if the terrain mesh is of a uniform edge length looking straight down, then you'd have issues with high-fidelity cliffs. I don't know how they've chosen to do it.

 

For example some game engines like ones used in the early FarCry it took gray-scale images as a height map, so you only had some sort of meter-square (or whatever) fidelity canvas to work with, I'm not saying that's how it actually is with DCS World; as I don't know.

[SonofEil]

Wags has said these maps are built with expansion in mind, I expect at some point they’ll increase the details outwards. Hell, you can actually see Edwards AFB on the current map, and even San Bernardino. They are a very-very-very low res mesh only of course, but they’re there. It’d be fantastic if we could have a Nellis-level detailed Edwards at some point in the future, though I expect if it ever happens, it’s years away.

Edited May 17, 2018 by SonofEil

[gnouze]

Yes Jedi transition is in the game but not detailed enough (mesh). See my quickly made video

 

 

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[Emmy]

Yeah, the ED version is lacking a little fidelity...

[BlackLibrary]

is there a map/miz with the waypoints for the hole transition?

[Emmy]

https://theaviationist.com/2017/11/17/is-star-wars-canyon-americas-plane-spotting-jewel-at-risk-of-overuse/

[BlacleyCole]

Is there a way to get all the relevant data to create all the points to be able to fly this transition? Would like to create a mission where you take off from Creech afb and fly this route but I know nothing of it?

[ouPhrontis]

 

Here's the actual brief material, with full coordinates, noise abatement and merging procedures etc.

http://www.edwards.af.mil/Portals/50/documents/R2508/AFD-150213-040.pdf

http://www.edwards.af.mil/Portals/50/documents/R2508/AFD-110126-047.pdf

 

Full route and brief is in this User Manual;

http://www.edwards.af.mil/Portals/50/documents/R2508/AFD-070103-052.pdf

Current brief material;

http://www.edwards.af.mil/Portals/50/documents/R2508/R-2508%20User's%20Handbook%2003%20MAY%202018.pdf

Edited May 20, 2018 by ouPhrontis

[ouPhrontis]

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Edited May 20, 2018 by ouPhrontis
added MGRS, because I'm bored and hungover.

[cbet25]

I was going to create a thread about this but I saw this one. Definitely needs to be done in the future.

[kingsnake11]

New to all this, but I created a mission with multiple aircraft flights working the Sidewinder route, with some AI aircraft doing the Jedi transition. Works great except that I can't for the life of me get the AI triggers to work. Using the same trigger commands in the Caucasus map work fine. Is this a known bug in the Nevada Terrain? Using the same trigger commands for the player F-18 work fine. I wonder if the Nevada map somehow allows AI triggers to work in the higher detailed areas north of vegas. I'll have to try that. Any thoughts would be great.

[macedk]

Dcs nevada star wars canyon.

 

It is on the Nevada map :)

 

Real life vid.

[Emmy]

Shame that it’s not modeled with better terrain fidelity though... :(

[macedk]

Shame that it’s not modeled with better terrain fidelity though... :(

 

agree