MileHiRyder Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Is there a way I can use my X52 Pro scroll wheel as a zoom control while in the clickable cockpit of the FA18? I use it this way in all the FC3 aircraft and I'd like to keep it that way in the FA18 but just can't figure out how to do it. Thanks, Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass, Asus Rog Maximus IX Hero Z270, Intel Core I7 - 7700K, Gskill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB, Seagate BarraCuda 3TB, NZXT Kraken X62, Corsair RM750X, Windows 10 Home, Asus ROG PG348Q 34” 3440 x 1440 100hz curved IPS G-Sync monitor, Saitek X52 Pro Hotas, TrackIR V5
MileHiRyder Posted June 1, 2018 Author Posted June 1, 2018 Yes, go to controls -> axis -> Zoom Tried that but it does not seem to recognize the scroll wheel as an available axis control. Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass, Asus Rog Maximus IX Hero Z270, Intel Core I7 - 7700K, Gskill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB, Seagate BarraCuda 3TB, NZXT Kraken X62, Corsair RM750X, Windows 10 Home, Asus ROG PG348Q 34” 3440 x 1440 100hz curved IPS G-Sync monitor, Saitek X52 Pro Hotas, TrackIR V5
wizav Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 You must use Saitek Software and create .pr0 profile. Avoid using DCS input settings. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
jaxx_za Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 I cannot recall now, but in DCS under the key bindings, is there no single button call for zoom in and zoom out? If yes, then you should be able to assign the scroll forward and back to these functions, an scrolling the wheel generates a single joystick button press in each direction. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
MileHiRyder Posted June 1, 2018 Author Posted June 1, 2018 I cannot recall now, but in DCS under the key bindings, is there no single button call for zoom in and zoom out? If yes, then you should be able to assign the scroll forward and back to these functions, an scrolling the wheel generates a single joystick button press in each direction. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Thanks for the reply. Yes, there is single button assignments for zoom in, zoom out etc. The problem is DCS sees the scroll wheel just like the mouse wheel so its not available for any control assignment. I haven't played with the Saitek profile software yet and that might be the way to go as suggested by wizav. Yesterday I updated to the latest Saitek (now Logitech) software which caused me to loose all my DCS control assignments because it labeled my HOTAS differently :mad: In the meantime, left-alt-c enables/disables clickable cockpit and while disabled I can zoom with the wheel. Sucks. I'm a newbie to all of this and am pretty overwhelmed right now but committed to flying this thing eventually. Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass, Asus Rog Maximus IX Hero Z270, Intel Core I7 - 7700K, Gskill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB, Seagate BarraCuda 3TB, NZXT Kraken X62, Corsair RM750X, Windows 10 Home, Asus ROG PG348Q 34” 3440 x 1440 100hz curved IPS G-Sync monitor, Saitek X52 Pro Hotas, TrackIR V5
jaxx_za Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Thanks for the reply. Yes, there is single button assignments for zoom in, zoom out etc. The problem is DCS sees the scroll wheel just like the mouse wheel so its not available for any control assignment. I haven't played with the Saitek profile software yet and that might be the way to go as suggested by wizav. Open up the Saitek SST SW with the default profile, and have a look at what is programmed by default for the scroll wheel - I suspect there is a mouse wheel function programmed to it. Reason I say this, is that the scroll wheel is just 2 buttons ( check out the default windows calibration for the x52 - it only sees 2 push buttons for the wheel). If you delete whatever is coded to the scroll wheel, then save as a new SST profile, and activate for the x52, DCS should start recognising the wheel up/down as push buttons, and hence you can program it as mentioned initially. I had this issue with the little push button next to the mouse pointer on the throttle - I use it for VR zoom, but had to do as described above before DCs would recognize it. I have also programmed the scroll wheel for the f-18 antenna elevation and DCS recognizes the wheel up/down as separate button presses. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
MileHiRyder Posted June 2, 2018 Author Posted June 2, 2018 Open up the Saitek SST SW with the default profile, and have a look at what is programmed by default for the scroll wheel - I suspect there is a mouse wheel function programmed to it. Reason I say this, is that the scroll wheel is just 2 buttons ( check out the default windows calibration for the x52 - it only sees 2 push buttons for the wheel). If you delete whatever is coded to the scroll wheel, then save as a new SST profile, and activate for the x52, DCS should start recognising the wheel up/down as push buttons, and hence you can program it as mentioned initially. I had this issue with the little push button next to the mouse pointer on the throttle - I use it for VR zoom, but had to do as described above before DCs would recognize it. I have also programmed the scroll wheel for the f-18 antenna elevation and DCS recognizes the wheel up/down as separate button presses. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Thanks Jax, that worked.....kind of. I tried this same thing yesterday but I tried to assign it to the zoom axis control. The problem is that DCS does not see this unprogrammed wheel as an axis controller. Like you said its just seen as two buttons. Unfortunately the two button approach results in the zoom being way too slow (many wheel spins to zoom just a little). So, back to the drawing board. It doesn't make sense to me that this "wheel" is not seen as an axis controller when unprogrammed. :dunno: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass, Asus Rog Maximus IX Hero Z270, Intel Core I7 - 7700K, Gskill TridentZ RGB 32GB DDR4 3200, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G, Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB, Seagate BarraCuda 3TB, NZXT Kraken X62, Corsair RM750X, Windows 10 Home, Asus ROG PG348Q 34” 3440 x 1440 100hz curved IPS G-Sync monitor, Saitek X52 Pro Hotas, TrackIR V5
Robinvand Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Like you said its just seen as two buttons. Unfortunately the two button approach results in the zoom being way too slow (many wheel spins to zoom just a little). So, back to the drawing board. It doesn't make sense to me that this "wheel" is not seen as an axis controller when unprogrammed. :dunno: Same problem here, maybe there is a way to set the zoom level per "click"?
Hippo Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 See my post here RE a similar requirement. I haven't tried it with zoom, so can't say if it works; I think it should. By changing the delay time, it should be possible to increase the level of zoom per 'click' of the wheel. System spec: Intel i7 12700k @ stock, ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), WD Black SN 850X 2TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 Evo Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS Prev System spec (leaving here because I often reference it in my posts): Intel i9 13900KF @ stock, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X, Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Samsung 980 EVO 500 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), Cooler Master ML360 Illusion CPU Cooler, Asus XG43UQ Monitor, Oculus Quest Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
crab Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Remember you can use both at the same time because anything left unprogrammed in SST can have a command assigned in DCS. I find it best to stick mostly with one or the other rather than completely mixed because you end up losing track of where you're programming what. All that said you have options to program in SST that cannot be duplicated in DCS and that makes it the more powerful choice. Button presses can't be easily sped up or slowed down because you only have the ability to change the repeat delay. What ends up happening as you increase that delay is at first no change (seen as a continuous press) and with more delay it becomes a stutter because you are simply pressing the button slower, not actually slowing the rate of zoom. Not to worry though, with the usual press/repeat/release command it will zoom in and out quite smoothly.
Sprool Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 Got the X52 yesterday and zoom function, so important for operation in DCS, was nasty on the joystick, tried the "precision" slider and one of the throttle rotary controls, the view jittered around all the time. I finally managed to get the scroll wheel working by downloading latest Logitech s/ware and an F-18 'tdc slew' profile from DCS so I can also now make use of the little thumbstick. Seems documentation & support on the X52 is pretty shoddy tbh, but I now have a much more stable and usable zoom by mapping the scroll wheel down to the zoom in slow key and scroll wheel up to the zoom out key - ignoring the zoom on the axis controls. It only takes 4 or 5 clicks - about 1/4 of a rotation, to go from neutral to full in or out, which is fine for me. Trouble is, the X52 doesnt seem to hang on to the loaded profiles.
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