The_Pharoah Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I'm loving the Hornet and flying it on the Inferno server...however a lot of the time I'm up against a heavily defended target which has multiple SAM sites, and here I am in a Hornet with no TGP or AGMs..just dumb bombs and CCIP. How am I supposed to attack the target? Do I go really low or do I go really high (to give myself room to try and out maneouver the SAMs)? I've found you can fool 1, maybe 2 SAMs...but not necessarily 3-4 all headed towards you. Or should I try and just fly with others and try and attack the target simultaneously from diff directions? AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbclark16 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Well it's early access so you will need to let others deal with the A2A threats. You could Wild Weasel if you wanted to get the attention off of the guys blowing stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSigma Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Flying cooperatively will increase your chances of survival and give you greater situational awareness. Secondly, game plan your approach based on what specific types of AA threats are in the area: low to mid alt. sams; high alt. sams; ir guided or radar guided; and, are those sites autonomous. Plan your ingress route and egress route. Are there opportunities to use the terrain to mask your approach? Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckram Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Fly an A-10C. In all seriousness, there isn't much you can do at the moment. I'd recommend getting your mates to fly a SEAD role, or flying with several wingmen to decoy the SAMs while you make your strike or vice versa. Flying low and using the terrain to your advantage also works as well as it can. I manage sometimes to roll out of terrain cover and make a burner, low level bombing pass on SAMs, but only if you have an exact bead on where they are. Achieving World Peace - One 2000lb JDAM at a time. Intel i7 9700K, 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200Mhz , ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1080 TI OC, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Oculus Rift S. ~ Proud Member of the 62nd Fighting Falcons ~ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradleyjs Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 When the SLAM-ER is introduced we’ll be able to take out ground targets at a much safer distance. In the meantime, SEAD is your best offense. Alienware Area 51 R5 - Intel i9 7980XE (4.7 GHz), 32GB Dual Channel HyperX DDR4 XMP, Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Graphics 11GB GDDR5X SLI, 4.5 TB combo of SSDs/HDDs, Alienware 1500 Watt Multi-GPU Power Supply, Alienware 25” 240Hz Gaming Monitor, Alienware Pro Gaming Keyboard, TM HOTAS, TM Cougar F-16C MFDs, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, TrackIR5, Win10 Pro x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjolner Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 In multiplayer, I am sure you are going to have a hard time using the Hornet in a strike package on a defended target without friends. In the mission editor you could build a coordinated strike package with a 2-4 ship SEAD element. Then as mentioned plan your route and pop-up around terrain masking and pray. Good luck online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacredRaziel Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Currently the 18 is not suited for any kind of Sam defence. Either wait for a10's or su25's to take out the Sam's or your chance of survival is quiet low. You are bringing a knife to the gunfight. Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 You can try and get the SAMs to fire at you, then drive them into the ground or take cover behind something (mountains, buildings, etc).. and keep doing this until they stop firing at you. It's risky but you don't have the proper tools to deal with them any other way. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Pharoah Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 yeah ok thanks guys thats what i thought. I'm a huge fan of reading F105 missions to North Vietnam so I guess this is something like it...but even then they still had jammers, etc. Can't wait to try that out for the Hornet. AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Combat Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Could you get a mark point on the SAM and then use CCRP to lob some 82's at it? Nvidia RTX3080 (HP Reverb), AMD 3800x Asus Prime X570P, 64GB G-Skill RipJaw 3600 Saitek X-65F and Fanatec Club-Sport Pedals (Using VJoy and Gremlin to remap Throttle and Clutch into a Rudder axis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacredRaziel Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Any form of paveway bomb would do the trick. Especially on the inferno server since you always have a jtac... I think unguided bombs would not be precise enough if you try to catapult them... Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoen Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 You can attack most SAMs with dumb bombs, only a few are really tricksy (SA-15, Tunguska), the rest are easily fooled by flying over them (Strela) or under (SA-6, SA-10, SA-8) then bombing them. If you fly straight in at medium altitude you're gonna get shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacredRaziel Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 You can attack most SAMs with dumb bombs, only a few are really tricksy (SA-15, Tunguska), the rest are easily fooled by flying over them (Strela) or under (SA-6, SA-10, SA-8) then bombing them. If you fly straight in at medium altitude you're gonna get shot.But usually you have a mix. Risk/benefit assessment advises to not use the 18 first in. Gesendet von meinem SM-G935F mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 yeah ok thanks guys thats what i thought. I'm a huge fan of reading F105 missions to North Vietnam so I guess this is something like it...but even then they still had jammers, etc. Can't wait to try that out for the Hornet. The 105s did not go "Downtown" all by themselves either... They had F-4s or A-6s riding shotgun for SEAD. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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