AATQ#2

[Biga42]

At the end of this mission was odd...ATC instructs to land on RWY 25 at night with bad weather....try once...impossible to see anything...I decided go to pattern and land on RWY 7 witch has ILS...thanks to the BTQ I could land and pass the PO.

 

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[rajdary]

You can always put on your night vision goggles and land.

[Wyverex]

I have the same issue. Everything is pitch black. Is this intended? I attached a zoomed out F2 view after having landed. In weather like this I'd expect the runway to be lit up like a Christmas tree to guide airplanes home. When flying by procedure you wouldn't even be allowed to land since you can't see the runway. I barely managed to land on RWY 25 in the practice mission. Not sure I want to try in the real mission :shocking: NVG doesn't help either since clouds go down to ground level and you see less with goggles than without especially through the HUD (and I've almost turned it off).

 

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Is this a bug with Kobuleti lighting or is this intended behaviour?

[Sabre-TLA]

Certainly not intended. We are retesting all the A-10C missions so we will investigate this one and see if we can improve the landing visuals.

[gerd]

Wow, what a mission. I am reflying this campaign now with A-10C II and the emotions are high:

 - nice weather setting at the beginning (do turn off Hear like in helmet option and you will be chilling by the startup procedure ends)

 - tanker is too dark to see without NVG, too bright to see with NVG, the trick is to hide his tail position light behind the canopy frame

 - landing on a runway 25 with TACAN only not being able to see anything (with NVG once can see patches of fog, without NVG one can see black) and hoping the runway is there...

 - taxiing to the parking spot I missed it twice due to low visibility.

Aced it on the first try (well, second, as on the first attempt the lead crashed into me lining up for takeoff), but In the end I was so happy I made it back in one piece that no combat sortie could compare.

[Sabre-TLA]

Now you are prepared for any weather condition!

[Wespe]

@Sabre-TLAWhen i can to divert to Batumi? After AAR i proceeded to Batumi without approach attempts in Kobuleti, because ILS RW25 does not exist and weather conditions so worst. 

Landed safety in Batumi, and no commands from FE after... Parked, SD procedure, and exit from mission, just 50%. It is training practise mission, not qualification.

Edited December 18, 2021 by Wespe

[Sabre-TLA]

I'll have to check.  I think the qual mission you can divert for success but we might not have added the extra code to the practice mission.  Not sure when ED will fix the ILS at Kobuleti.

[Rongor]

I have some problems with confusing contradictions of the Delta Rendezvous the mission claims to suppose us to follow.

- Calling the tanker at the RVIP doesn't actually make it turn to arrive at the RVCP in time (RVCT)

- setting TACAN to anything else than T/R doesn't give any readout, to get the tanker's bearing and range, you have to set it to T/R, not A/A as demanded by your examiner.

- (this one only during the training mission) maintaining the long distance towards waypoint 4 (RVCP) had me fly inside of clouds most of the time. Getting above them at around 14200 of course triggered a Q- rating for deviation from the demanded altitude

- examiner calls out friendlies from 11 o'clock at least 2 times. Unlike during the daylight mission I didn't see any of these, it was pitch black, NVG only showed stars, no aircraft, no idea how my examiner might have spotted them

- we are told to fly at "appropriate speed" several times. Since we learned how to deal with DTOT during the BFT course and also keeping in mind that its mission critical to arrive right on RVCT, I flew the R-speeds correctly. This made me end up 15 NM trailing the tanker (at a slower speed than the tanker) and the examiner claiming I failed to arrive on time, while the DTOT clearly shows I am right on time. Quite frustrating, as this occurs 40 minutes into this rather long mission...

 

situation seconds after I "failed" to be on time at the RVCP:
I am 6 NM out and will arrive in 1:40, right on DTOT (deviation is less than 10 seconds). Tanker is 15 NM ahead though, 9 NM beyond the RVCP...

Edited December 23, 2024 by Rongor

[Sabre-TLA]

Thanks for reporting the issues.  Likely some recent game engine updates have changed the AI behavior and weather again.  I'll open a bug report and make the changes to get it back to it's original working order. 

If you wanted to see how it was originally working you can watch Recon Stewart's video here:

Spoiler

 

 

[Rongor]

Tried it again today, again allegedly missed the rendezvous.
As you can see in my HUD, I should be right on time to arrive at WP4 at +00 at the DTOT 18.26 in 2 minutes and 31 seconds.

[Btw if you look at the R speed on the left side of the HUD, there seems to be some issue with the DTOT based R-speed calculation. I'd say it might not be connected to the issue here, as I would arrive even later when reducing to R231. Still a problem which I'll report in the A-10C subforum]

I accepted the Q- in advance and have arrived at the tanker, between WP6 and WP7.
Now I face the problem that the examiner doesn't seem to acknowledge my successful connects, He just doesn't comment anything besides the "little bit more stick and throttle" advice.

Just in case this might be a trigger thing: I kind of bypassed WP5 and WP6, since before arriving at WP5 the examiner told me I should follow the tanker into the turn while it was turning at WP5 ahead of me, so since I was already "too late" I shortcutted into a dog pursuit directly aiming at the tanker, yet remaining on 14000 ft.

So I am afraid this mission might fail by resulting in a U-rating.

While I am actually doing perfectly


After 9 successful connects (without examiner commenting) he told me "enough for the day" when we arrived at WP7, RTB to Kobuleti went without issue. The IFR CAT-III approach was pretty cool - although the rwy 25 ILS seems to have issues)

As expected I received a U-rating. Still after ending the mission the score was 80, so I am free to continue with AATQ3

Edited December 24, 2024 by Rongor