upyr1 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 hi, I was wondering if the avenger should be able to kill a t-80 in real life?
S77th-konkussion Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 IRL- you don't neccessarily have to see an explosion to have rendered a tank useless. This is just over-simplified damage modeling. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 You think Avenger can kill T-80 with .50 cal machinegun? Maybe youve forgotten that T-80 survives after a hit of 122mm shell? Otherwise.............LOL [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Viper101 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 You think Avenger can kill T-80 with .50 cal machinegun? Maybe youve forgotten that T-80 survives after a hit of 122mm shell? you retarded? hes talking about the AN/GAU-8 30mm that an A-10 has.:megalol: after a few rounds on High rate, that T-80 will be leaking blood.:D (that is if you hit it every time ;)) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
britgliderpilot Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 you retarded? hes talking about the AN/GAU-8 30mm that an A-10 has.:megalol: after a few rounds on High rate, that T-80 will be leaking blood.:D (that is if you hit it every time ;)) Even the Avenger isn't a guaranteed kill. See the following link for some scanned pages of a seemingly light-hearted tome by the name of "The A-10 Pilot's Colouring Book". http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_053c.html Written for the USAFE some time ago, basically details good aspects from which to hit a T-62. A direct hit on the front is counted as completely impossible for a kill. And that's for the T-62 . . . . . likely that there've been armour upgrades since then. Should an Avenger really be able to kill a T-80? Don't know . . . . not sure who would know. Assume a rear aspect shot is possible, but a front aspect shot should remain ineffective. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Hm........AVENGER - Hummer-based Stinger carrier with 50.cal machinegun.Am i wrong? Use Lock On built-in encyclopedia. Or its the same situation as with M1 Garand(And M1A1 Carabine) and M1 Abrams tank;M60 machinegun and M60 tank? Maybe i'm stupid, but i can't understand it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EscCtrl Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 You think Avenger can kill T-80 with .50 cal machinegun? Maybe youve forgotten that T-80 survives after a hit of 122mm shell? Otherwise.............LOL The avenger cannon is different to a shell in more ways then size. The shape and materials of the rounds are different, avengers often mix AP and HE rounds for greater effect, I would also assume it also has a higher velocity then a shell (could be wrong though). A t80 could take a 122mm hit to it's active armor or another strong point, but a weak area say the join between the turret and body might not be able to take this. An avenger firing at a high-rate could hit lots of the strong areas but also many of the rounds may deviate into weak areas or tear off some track links. I don't think simple caliber comparison is the way to analyse it.
EscCtrl Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Hm........AVENGER - Hummer-based Stinger carrier with 50.cal machinegun.Am i wrong? Use Lock On built-in encyclopedia. They are talking about the avenger cannon carried by the A-10 plane not the avenger armoured vehicle. They are two different things.
britgliderpilot Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Hm........AVENGER - Hummer-based Stinger carrier with 50.cal machinegun.Am i wrong? Use Lock On built-in encyclopedia. There is a unit named the Avenger, and there is a weapon named the Avenger - the GAU-8/A as fitted to the A-10. I'd much rather attack a T-80 with the latter ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
S77th-konkussion Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 DimASS. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 S77th-konkussion My nick is not your problem. Yeah, it seems to me, that it's very easy;) to tell,for example, M1A1(Carabine) from......M1A1(Tank).(only by name) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Viper101 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger - read about its power :) :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Holy SH*T! I'd like to buy one for huntung! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 You can still destroy the gun, damage optics, and obliterate reactive armor. If the crew are turned out you can kill them. It's just that the probability of scoring a disabling hit is rather low. From the rear, the engine deck and parts of the turret top and rear are penetrable. Also, there is a possibility of hitting external fuel tanks etc. Should an Avenger really be able to kill a T-80? Don't know . . . . not sure who would know. Assume a rear aspect shot is possible, but a front aspect shot should remain ineffective. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Viper101 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Holy SH*T! I'd like to buy one for huntung! :D be nothing left!:music_whistling::megalol::megalol::megalol: There is no such thing as an armored tank with an Avenger cannon on it. There is only a smaller version of it called the M61 Vulcan ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Viper101 Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Yup, totally agree on that. You'd definitely have to hit it in just the right spot to make it go boom. Rendering it combat ineffective with damage, OTOH, much easier to accomplish. HAHAHAHAHH, reminds me of when somebody shoots everything he has at a tank and no effect........throws the gun at the thing and it goes "kaplooie":megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EscCtrl Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 HAHAHAHAHH, reminds me of when somebody shoots everything he has at a tank and no effect........throws the gun at the thing and it goes "kaplooie":megalol: My mate Darren did that last week! lolz Since when has that ever happened? :P
Ven Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Maybe I just suck at it but it's not easy killing T80 with A10 cannon in LOMAC either. Usually takes me multiple pass and lots of rounds. Perhaps it's reasonably modeled?
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 It took me one pass and 145 rounds to destroy T-80 with A-10's gun. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ven Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 It took me one pass and 145 rounds to destroy T-80 with A-10's gun. which version?
Ven Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 I just tried again. Slowed down the speed to makes sure every round hit the T80. Fired 150 rounds on the first pass from the front. Didn't kill it. Fired another 150 rounds on second pass from the rear, then it exploded. I'd like to see a track of you killing it with 145 rounds if you don't mind creating one. Maybe the aspect angle is important.
DimASS Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Yes,i was shooting into his a*s! :D So it seems like yes, angle of hitting is important. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team Groove Posted June 16, 2007 ED Team Posted June 16, 2007 I would say the A-10 cant kill the latest tanks with its cannon. But as already mentioned, you dont need a catastrophic hit. Simply screwing its engine / optics / track is suitable enough. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Ven Posted June 16, 2007 Posted June 16, 2007 Yes,i was shooting into his a*s! :D So it seems like yes, angle of hitting is important. Heres the track. Thanks for the track but can't see anything in cockpit. It's like it's zoomed in 100x Why is that?
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