Victory205 Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 DLC is engaged and checked on downwind. You are referencing actual use of DLC, which generally was only required to stop from going flat in close, after adding power to counter the downdraft behind the boat. Usually, the technique was one or two quick "clicks" in the nose down direction. Bang Bang to stop from going flat as you cleared the ramp. Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
SonofEil Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Ok that makes sense, thanks Vic. Listening to the FPP over the last few months has me wishing for the burble in DCS. i7 7700K @5.0, 1080Ti, 32GB DDR4, HMD Odyssey, TM WH, Crosswind Rudder...
Possum Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 Why is the the +5º pitch line in the HUD on the horizon? When level, the VV was pretty close to the 5º line, and I noticed that there was a miscompare between the HUD and ADI. What are you using for your scan?
Victory205 Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Why is the the +5º pitch line in the HUD on the horizon? When level, the VV was pretty close to the 5º line, and I noticed that there was a miscompare between the HUD and ADI. What are you using for your scan? It was that way in the aircraft. The HUD is designed for weapons delivery, and is not a primary flight display. Everyone, and I mean everyone I know turned it either way down for landing at the ship, or completely off. Learn to fly using the VDI for attitude and heading information. Edited March 13, 2019 by Victory205 Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
Possum Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 By weapons delivery, I assume you mean A to A? Dive angle is crucial for air to ground deliveries, I don’t remember it being like that. If my memory is correct the horizon line was usually about 1° above the horizon in the HUD, not 5° below. In the VDIG-R, they were calibrated. I agree about turning it off for landing.
Victory205 Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) The higher you go, the closer the horizon line gets to the real horizon. Pitch is referenced to the aircraft symbol correctly, it just doesn't correlate to the real horizon accurately. Go figure. Heatblur got it right. Edited March 14, 2019 by Victory205 Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
Manuel_108 Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 It was that way in the aircraft. The HUD is designed for weapons delivery, and is not a primary flight display. Everyone, and I mean everyone I know turned it either way down for landing at the ship, or completely off. Learn to fly using the VDI for attitude and heading information. Right on, I think this serves as a great opportunity to relearn basic scanning techniques. I'm going to try it the old school way and just turn the HUD off from the beginning. It's definitely a challenge. The only adantage I will miss just a little is the E bracket, which I guess real life pilots didn't need in the groove as they could feel exactly what the jet was doing.
TonyG Posted March 13, 2019 Posted March 13, 2019 It was that way in the aircraft. The HUD is designed for weapons delivery, and is not a primary flight display. Everyone, and I mean everyone I know turned it either way down for landing at the ship, or completely off. Learn to fly using the VDI for attitude and heading information. For clarity, the E-bracket/velocity vector wasn’t widely used during landing? Just sight picture and the AoA indexer? 9800X3D, MSI 5080 , G.SKILL 64GB DDR5-6000, Win 11, MSI X870, 2/4TB nVME, Quest 3, OpenHornet Pit
Possum Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 For clarity, the E-bracket/velocity vector wasn’t widely used during landing? Just sight picture and the AoA indexer? Right, and calls from the RIO around the turn. That would be briefed as each pilot had his own tastes. I usually wanted VVI and knots to lose when rolling wings level in the groove.
Possum Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Right on, I think this serves as a great opportunity to relearn basic scanning techniques. I'm going to try it the old school way and just turn the HUD off from the beginning. It's definitely a challenge. The only adantage I will miss just a little is the E bracket, which I guess real life pilots didn't need in the groove as they could feel exactly what the jet was doing. AOA indexer turned up bright, and trim.
iRocco Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 How do you read the roll angle on the f14? The artificial horizon doesn't show it at all. Gesendet von meinem SM-G960F mit Tapatalk
Victory205 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 How do you read the roll angle on the f14? The artificial horizon doesn't show it at all. Gesendet von meinem SM-G960F mit Tapatalk You read it at the bottom of the VDI using the tic marks... Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
Mr_sukebe Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Just tried using the same case 1 technique that I use with the F18, and managed 2 out of 2 traps. Smug would be a reasonable statement. For all that, I'd better go read the manual now so I understand how you SHOULD do it. 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
Harlikwin Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Just tried using the same case 1 technique that I use with the F18, and managed 2 out of 2 traps. Smug would be a reasonable statement. For all that, I'd better go read the manual now so I understand how you SHOULD do it. I managed to plop it on the deck first try too, but jesters vertebrea never recovered... And I am doing it wrong... Very wrong, not by the book but it works in DCS... New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
Victory205 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 The 5800 word landing guide (this should kill Millennials) is ready, just waiting to see where HB want to put it. Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
DUSTY Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 The 5800 word landing guide (this should kill Millennials) is ready, just waiting to see where HB want to put it. NICE! :megalol: F-15E | AH-64 | F/A-18C | F-14B | A-10C | UH-1H | Mi-8MTV2 | Ka-50 | SA342 | Super Carrier | Nevada | Persian Gulf | Syria | Intel Core i7 11700K - 32GB 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 - MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming X 12GB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe SSD 1TB
104th_Maverick Posted March 15, 2019 Author Posted March 15, 2019 The 5800 word landing guide (this should kill Millennials) is ready, just waiting to see where HB want to put it. Thanks for the time that went in to it sir... can't wait to start working up the skills to nail it properly! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
ajbarton1972 Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 This is excellent. Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. I've recently developed an appreciation for just how solid the back of an aircraft carrier is. This is exactly what I was searching for to learn how to land rather than just getting lucky on occasion. Study and practice!
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