A Couple of Approach-related Questions for Victory

[Jetguy06]

I just had two questions, one procedural, and one out of curiosity.

 

 

The curiosity one first... Why does the Tomcat enter the Initial and Break with the wings fully swept to 68 degrees? Flying around at 350 kts with the wings in Auto, they stay almost fully unswept. I know there has to be a logical reason the break is done with them swept, but why?

 

 

And the second... What sight picture should I look for to start my turn from downwind to final at an airfield (I am NOT even attempting the boat until I'm consistently competent at landing at an airfield... I've got a long way to go still)? Do I turn when the threshold passes the trailing edge of the wingtip as in the Hornet? Halfway between the wingtip and the stabilator? 45 degrees behind the 3/9 line? Some other place?

 

 

Thanks for the help and all you do for all us unworthy folk. :thumbup:

[punk]

He already answered your first question in his case 1 landing tips write up. "The wings are moved aft in order to set up a higher induced drag delta wing profile to facilitate a more rapid deceleration and also to make formation easier and tidier."

 

Salute,

[Jetguy06]

He already answered your first question in his case 1 landing tips write up. "The wings are moved aft in order to set up a higher induced drag delta wing profile to facilitate a more rapid deceleration and also to make formation easier and tidier."

 

Salute,

 

 

I must have missed that. Thanks!!

[Nealius]

To your second question, I recall reading in the Hornet that in shore patterns you should begin your groove turn 10 seconds past the TD point. I've been doing the same in the Tomcat.

Edited March 18, 2019 by Nealius

[Jetguy06]

To your second question, I recall reading in the Hornet that in shore patterns you should begin your groove turn 10 seconds past the TD point. I've been doing the same in the Tomcat.

 

 

Makes sense. I'll give that a try.

[VampireNZ]

"Here is the Case I Landing Tips Paper. "

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3838864&postcount=1

[Rokkett]

He already answered your first question in his case 1 landing tips write up. "The wings are moved aft in order to set up a higher induced drag delta wing profile to facilitate a more rapid deceleration and also to make formation easier and tidier."

 

Salute,

More importantly, entering the break with wings swept looks "sh*t hot!"

[VampireNZ]

Even more importantly - Meg might be on the flight deck..

 

Edited March 18, 2019 by VampireNZ

[Jetguy06]

"Here is the Case I Landing Tips Paper. "

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3838864&postcount=1

 

 

Thanks. I imagine landing at an airfield uses similar cues, but maybe not, since it's obviously not moving.

[punk]

Thanks. I imagine landing at an airfield uses similar cues, but maybe not, since it's obviously not moving.

Naval policy was generally to fly the same approach whether feet wet or dry for carrier aircraft, that way pilots did not develop bad habits like flaring at landing. :thumbup:

[mkosmo]

He already answered your first question in his case 1 landing tips write up. "The wings are moved aft in order to set up a higher induced drag delta wing profile to facilitate a more rapid deceleration and also to make formation easier and tidier."

 

Salute,

 

Code words for "because it looks cooler that way!"