VNAO T-45 Goshawk

[hreich]

Thank you deeleyer !!!

 

 

[flyingcyrus]

3 hours ago, rafalito1 said:

I think you are confused about AOA and Attitude.

Angle of attack (AOA) is the angle between an aircraft's wing's chord line and the relative wind.

Aircraft attitude is the orientation of an aircraft in relation to the Earth's horizon, specifically how the nose and wings are positioned in space.

8º AOA for straight and level flight seems like a correct indication. You need some lift in your wings to fly.

If I remember correctly Velocity Vector doesn't work below a certain speed (50kt), and I suppose AOA indicator doesn't work without wind flow.

No I'm not 
8° AOA would be OK for straight and level flight with a relatively slow speed, not at almost 400kt and low altitude. The thing is, as I said in my previous post (and confirmed by Nibbylot), that the AOA of the T-45 (and some other military birds) indicates "units" and not degrees, therfore not displaying the "classical" angle. This is what I was confused about.

Edited Tuesday at 04:58 PM by flyingcyrus

[rafalito1]

hace 4 horas, flyingcyrus dijo:

No I'm not 
8° AOA would be OK for straight and level flight with a relatively slow speed, not at almost 400kt and low altitude. The thing is, as I said in my previous post (and confirmed by Nibbylot), that the AOA of the T-45 (and some other military birds) indicates "units" and not degrees, therfore not displaying the "classical" angle. This is what I was confused about.

First time that I know that AOA "units" are not degrees.
So I've looked into the T-45's NATOPS Manual.

And yes,  you seem to be right. It say only "units", not degrees.

Page I-2-90:
2.21.2 AOA Controls and Indicators.
2.21.2.1 AOA Indicator. The AOA indicator
functions throughout the entire flight regime to
display AOA information, see Figure 2-38. The
indicator registers units of AOA to the relative
airstream, from 0 to 30 units. An OFF flag is
visible if electrical power is lost. The indicator is
set with the optimum unit setting at the 3 o'clock
position. Both cockpit AOA indicators independently
receive their input from the AOA probe.

[nibbylot]

42 minutes ago, rafalito1 said:

First time that I know that AOA "units" are not degrees.
So I've looked into the T-45's NATOPS Manual.

And yes,  you seem to be right. It say only "units", not degrees.

Page I-2-90:
2.21.2 AOA Controls and Indicators.
2.21.2.1 AOA Indicator. The AOA indicator
functions throughout the entire flight regime to
display AOA information, see Figure 2-38. The
indicator registers units of AOA to the relative
airstream, from 0 to 30 units. An OFF flag is
visible if electrical power is lost. The indicator is
set with the optimum unit setting at the 3 o'clock
position. Both cockpit AOA indicators independently
receive their input from the AOA probe.

This is also not unique to the T-45. I believe almost all Navy jets in DCS (A-4, F-14, F-18, F-4) use “Units” instead of “degrees” for AoA.

[Holbeach]

Record of my first Carrier trap with the T45..

Although I posted on the 2nd page, I'd forgotten about this mod until this morning. I didn't realise how advanced it was.

Downloaded v 1.2. Here is my second attempt at a landing on a Carrier. 1st attempt, the hook bounced the wires, but the 2nd attempt worked. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I spent a lot of time in the Hawk. This is far better than I expected..

Edit: I found out that the parking brake is on by default, so a key needs to be assigned. This increased the T/O speed with full tanks to 123kt.

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Edited Thursday at 03:54 PM by Holbeach

[Holbeach]

On 9/18/2025 at 8:40 PM, Rudel_chw said:

 

I enjoy the T-45 too, but the Hawk had the advantage that it could carry real weapons, including a Gun, while the Goshawk only has practice weapons and a "simulated" gun.

The Hawk had a gun but it was never lined up with the sights and the devs were never able to cure it.

Work rounds were in order.

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[Holbeach]

The Corsair and Goshawk have rekindled my interest in DCS, with Carrier ops. which I have never considered before. (Except Harrier).

Without the benefit of a manual, virtual or otherwise, I have a question or 2.

Is there a landing weight limit? I'm at 60% fuel.

I'm going for a 125kt approach, as it feels right. IAS is showing this on the tab. This shows as 141kt IAS on the HUD. 120kt/135kt at the deck edge. This can't be right. 

EDIT: I see what's happening here. The HUD is adding the wind speed to the IAS. (Maybe this is known bug)

If you remove wind speed it reads correct IAS/TAS, which is what you want. E.g. 125 on the approach instead of 141, which we have here.

 

 

 

So far I havn't touched the Speedbrake. Is it usual to use it on approach?

Edit: I find it best to use it, so that's what I'll do from now on.

1st wire. Just right. 

This mod ie exceptional!

It's close to the Skyhawk in looks and size, which was used on this Colossus Class ship by Argentina.

T/O is good at any weight, even without wind. Ship speed is 24kt.

Lovin it.

 

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Edited 23 hours ago by Holbeach

[LCO489]

@nibbylot please, do you have some info on how wuch throttle will brakes hold on a takeoff? I'm working on a new version of my suspension mod and i want to adjust that too.