Some details on "Search then engage in zone"?

[Shimmergloom667]

Hey guys!

 

So, I set up a few easy training missions for a buddy of mine so I can teach him all things DCS, and I put a few randomly spawning adversary flights in there.

 

They take off, at the next waypoint they get the following advanced waypoint actions:

 

- Orbit (circle, at a set altitude)

- RTB on bingo fuel = on

- Search then engage in zone (with the Zone centered on the waypoint they are orbiting)

 

When trying it out, I engaged a pair of MiG-29s circling, but they didn't engage me as I would have suspected.

 

What may be the reasons for this?

 

- I got an A-50 circling a short distance off, so they even should have AWACS (do AI need to be on the same freq?)

- the patrols are of varying skill, but even the higher ones didn't engage me

- could this be just a matter of chance?

 

There is no RoE set to green or anything, so I can't wrap my head around it right now.

[shagrat]

Hey guys!

 

 

 

So, I set up a few easy training missions for a buddy of mine so I can teach him all things DCS, and I put a few randomly spawning adversary flights in there.

 

 

 

They take off, at the next waypoint they get the following advanced waypoint actions:

 

 

 

- Orbit (circle, at a set altitude)

 

- RTB on bingo fuel = on

 

- Search then engage in zone (with the Zone centered on the waypoint they are orbiting)

 

 

 

When trying it out, I engaged a pair of MiG-29s circling, but they didn't engage me as I would have suspected.

 

 

 

What may be the reasons for this?

 

 

 

- I got an A-50 circling a short distance off, so they even should have AWACS (do AI need to be on the same freq?)

 

- the patrols are of varying skill, but even the higher ones didn't engage me

 

- could this be just a matter of chance?

 

 

 

There is no RoE set to green or anything, so I can't wrap my head around it right now.

The sequence of tasks is important.

Put the Engage in zone on top of the orbit task. Should do the trick... also check the details of engage in zone, if your aircraft type is selected (by Default everything should be selected).

Edit and make sure they have reached the waypoint before you engage them, so the task is activated.

[Shimmergloom667]

The sequence of tasks is important.

Put the Engage in zone on top of the orbit task. Should do the trick... also check the details of engage in zone, if your aircraft type is selected (by Default everything should be selected).

Edit and make sure they have reached the waypoint before you engage them, so the task is activated.

 

I was wondering about the sequence, my reasoning was: "if I put engage first, and there is nothing yet in the zone, it will orbit and not look further". Obivously it is the other way round! :D

 

Will mix it up, the correct types of aircraft are selected! Will also double-check on if the task is correctly activated (which I suppose it is, because they are orbiting fine).

 

Thanks for the heads-up!

[Shimmergloom667]

Just wanted to acknowledge: putting up "Search and engage in zone" on top did the trick, I died in several, colorful ways yesterday when all enemy flights decided to roll good on their spawn chance. :D

[dorianR666]

I was wondering about the sequence, my reasoning was: "if I put engage first, and there is nothing yet in the zone, it will orbit and not look further". Obivously it is the other way round! :D

thats because there is a difference between "perform task" and "enroute task".

enroute task gets processed immediately and game engine continues to process actions below it; the ai just marks that the given enroute task is active and will act on it in the future if needed. perform task takes time to process and the game engine continues to process actions below it only after the task execution finishes.

[shagrat]

There is a nice overview and detailed explanation in the Mission Editor be Part of the Manual (Program files/Eagle Dynamics/DCS World/Docs/ )

[Shimmergloom667]

Yeah, I know that - must have misunderstood that, though :)