bonesvf103 Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 So what is the right way to use DLC? Is it meant to be used as click click as needed, or do you hold it in position? If you are high on the GS, do you extend the DLC to get back down and retract to get back up if you are low? What's the right way? v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
sLYFa Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Ideally, you wouldn't use DLC at all, i.e. keeping it in the neutral position all the way to touch down and keeping GS with throttles only. However, DLC does come in handy for last minute corrections at the ramp. If for example you see the ball starting to rise when you are just behind the boat, hit DLC forward once or twice (the NATOPS calls this bang-bang control) to prevent yourself from soaring over the wires. The same can be done when you start getting too low at the ramp. Hit DLC aft to arrest your sinkrate and spare yourself the emberassment of catching a one-wire. I really don't recommend using DLC anywhere else in the pattern, as it usually causes more problems than it solves. To sum it up: -tap it only once or twice, never more, for small adjustments at the ramp -dont use DLC to correct for glideslop/AoA errors anywhere else (use power instead) -never hold it down i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD
legearre Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 Listening to 14 pilot Okie in a podcast, he said auto throttles was SOP, so in that scenario DLC might be used more
bonesvf103 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 Interesting. I recall Victory205 saying how you bang it twice no more, no less, in some situation...With the added details you provided, I look forward to trapping again. v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
sLYFa Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 I found that banging it twice is too much in a situation where you only require a small correction. That may be different in the real AC but from my experience in the sim, once is sometimes enough. i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD
Biggus Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Real life it is an analog input. Most of us are using on/off input. It might not matter much but worth keeping in mind.
backspace340 Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 If you use it on an axis it can be used to basically pick your landing spot - I've got it set to the Y-axis on the mini-joystick on the TWCS throttle, so can just apply as much / little as needed. Really useful.
legearre Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Good point. I have it bound to a twist grip and max DLC in/out is not the standard use
sLYFa Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) max DLC in/out is not the standard use It is according to both the natops and real pilots. Edited May 31, 2019 by sLYFa typo i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD
stuart666 Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Thanks for the hint above about setting it up with an axis control. Previously ive used it with the default thrustmaster setup, and all you have is on/off. With an axis setup, It seems much more useable. First time I used it I got a 3 wire, so clearly there is some improvement here. :D
Larkis Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 I have a X56 Rhino from Logitech. It has an awesome thumb-minijoystik which i use for the DLC Axis. I recover with autothrottle, put the vertical position of the velocity-vector a little bit behind the wires, and do adjustments only with snipping again the dlc axis.
bonesvf103 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Posted June 3, 2019 I have a X56 Rhino from Logitech. It has an awesome thumb-minijoystik which i use for the DLC Axis. I recover with autothrottle, put the vertical position of the velocity-vector a little bit behind the wires, and do adjustments only with snipping again the dlc axis. I have the same HOTAS. Never got the hang of getting the mini-stick to work properly. Do you mind sharing your X56 profile? Thanks. v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
stuart666 Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Yeah I had one too. I threw it out when all the switches started failing. I wish we had a mini stick on the Warthog joystick. It seems a little artificial doing it on the throttle base. Works well mind. I use autothrottle too. I cant think of a good reason not to.
Larkis Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 I have the same HOTAS. Never got the hang of getting the mini-stick to work properly. Do you mind sharing your X56 profile? Thanks. v6, boNes Do you have the blue one or the black one? The black variant is a new variant produced by logitech with overall better quality and hall sensors for the stick. I dont have problems with the black one. But i dont use a extra software. I just bind axis and buttons in DCS
bonesvf103 Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 Do you have the blue one or the black one? The black variant is a new variant produced by logitech with overall better quality and hall sensors for the stick. I dont have problems with the black one. But i dont use a extra software. I just bind axis and buttons in DCS I have the black one. Ok,thanks! v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
jhanna1701 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I have the black one. Ok,thanks! v6, boNes Same here. I have the black one, and just use binds within DCS. Not at home at the moment, but there is a "DLC" under axis binds, which I didn't find for a long time. Try mapping that one to your thumbstick.
bonesvf103 Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 Same here. I have the black one, and just use binds within DCS. Not at home at the moment, but there is a "DLC" under axis binds, which I didn't find for a long time. Try mapping that one to your thumbstick. Really! OK, I'll try that next, thanks. Oh and I had the X-55 for about 2 years and the buttons and switches started to fail on the throttle so I switched to X-56 throttle and stick. My X-55 stick still works though--don't know what I'm going to do with it. Maybe I will rig it to be the 2nd stick in the F-14 RIO pit for the LANTIRN. v6, boNes "Also, I would prefer a back seater over the extra gas any day. I would have 80 pounds of flesh to eat and a pair of glasses to start a fire." --F/A-18 Hornet pilot
jhanna1701 Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 While we're talking about the x56 thumbstick... Does anyone else's stick in the back position? It almost feels like it has a mechanism to "hold' it in the back position. I don't remember if it has always been this way, or if it's a new issue, since I hadn't really used it, prior to binding for DLC.
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